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Post by Cid on Feb 8, 2010 22:09:30 GMT -5
Since planning should reflect the outcome of Major Events (in some way, I hope) then I don't see why it really matters.
But, for those of us who might not take part in such things, I like how Tylatz got a "promotion" for planning on the board. I don't see why more people couldn't get that. It makes sense. The actual organization of players and assets is pretty crucial and should work the same way as Major Events, only more often.
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Post by kuriboh on Feb 8, 2010 22:24:18 GMT -5
I think if a person is consistently active and contributes to their side, they should get a promotion even if they aren't the big planner behind the movement. My 2 cents. This. Makes it a bit more of an even field for those of us who aren't tactically minded. |
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Post by Frenzy on Feb 8, 2010 23:00:26 GMT -5
Kuri and Daren pretty much hit the nail on the head for this matter.
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Post by Ketara on Feb 8, 2010 23:15:25 GMT -5
Giving out promotions simply for activity and not for actual planning is not something that is on the table.
Basically what you are saying is you want to be rewarded for not doing any work.
People who are simply active and respond on the forums with "yes sir" a lot will not be demoted, but they will not be promoted either. In order for a promotion to occur I need to see that you are actually adding something to the discussion above and beyond your compliance and action email.
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Post by kuriboh on Feb 8, 2010 23:39:04 GMT -5
Obviously, I'm not asking that you reward "herp durp yessir", butI think what I mean more is recognition of the little nitpicky things - questions that get asked that may or may not alter or further a plan. Not everyone is GOOD at doing the big plannings. Case in point, I reality check Chan on IRC all the time. Doesn't always change things, BUT.
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Post by Ketara on Feb 8, 2010 23:57:56 GMT -5
Let me put it this way.
If I gave Kuriboh a promotion
I would also have to promote Draco, Dan, Radune, Frenzy, Chan, Gaplant, Chris, Daren, Marcus, Isaiah and Jim.
I'm just not going to give out that many, sry.
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Post by Cid on Feb 9, 2010 0:12:54 GMT -5
I think everyone, no matter their rank or position, has an obligation to submit battle plans. It isn't one dude's job. Those who aren't good at it might get better, and then deserve a promotion for their progress. Sort of how the real world works.
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Post by flession on Feb 9, 2010 8:21:39 GMT -5
People in the military get promoted from lower ranks because of their continued dedication and hard work. I'm not saying that they become Fleet Commander just from good intentions and happy smiles, but hard work and dedication to a cause is usually looked well upon. Being there for battles, being active, and even just posting in the side forums should be noted in a promotion.
Even if it's just "Yes, sir!", it shows that they are paying attention and following orders. That's the benefits of being a good soldier, and it puts the officers at ease who make the plans, because they know that it's going to happen.
Now, I think that there should only be so far you can rise with such actions, and if people do more, they should be rewarded more. Dedication to orders, though, is important in its own right
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Post by zerodash0 on Feb 9, 2010 17:43:23 GMT -5
I think that being active in rp's, being willing to follow orders and such, should at least allow for a promotion within the enlisted ranks, but not in the officer ranks. Officers should be promoted to leadership skills, planning, tactics, etc... But Enlistedmen should at least get some minor reward for being the grunt and getting the job done. Even moreso if the Enlistedman in question does something that should earn an Officer a promotion.
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Post by Feyd on Feb 9, 2010 20:27:44 GMT -5
I like the idea of having different standards for officers and enlisted personel. Enlisted people could get rewards for regular activity on the side boards while officer's promotions would be more related to their planning ability. That way those non officer EF people who I see on the board everyday contributing to our planning get rewarded for their efforts.
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Post by Threid on Feb 24, 2010 23:32:46 GMT -5
If a person is consistently active and contributes to their side, they should get a promotion even if they aren't the big planner behind the movement. To a certain point, I agree. Rank should reflect not only the effort one puts into planning actions, but also familiarity with the Gundam universe (timeline, units, weapons, etc.) and OYWRPG rules - familiarity which ought to increase as one plays the game. On the other hand, if you're active in the game, and familiar with Gundam and the RPG rules, why aren't you contributing to planning? In my short experience here, I've noticed people fall into 3 categories: Those who plan and send out orders e-mails, those who receive those e-mails and give feedback and suggestions on them, and those who just follow orders. Those who are just following orders without giving input on those orders, suggesting alternatives, or coming up with something brilliant for their characters to do on their own don't deserve a promotion, even if they're helping their side by playing, posting nice RPs, know Gundam, or have played OYWRPG every time. But planning isn't the only factor that should be taken into account for promotions. Players ought try to RP their characters in ways that reflects their ranks. If a player isn't RPing at all, or his RPs don't reflect the character's ambition (or ability) to rise through the ranks, it should count as a mark against promotion. To summarize: Promotions should be awarded to reflect the effort and quality of the player's planning, for himself or others, and the actions/character of the PC in events, battles and RP posts. P.S. The high command board would be mostly useless right now, considering the number of players on any given side and the current ratio of officers/non-officers. There isn't enough of a chain of command, or coordination between distinct groups to require a higher board. This may change as the ratio or coordination increases, but for now, even the officer's board is pretty elite. |
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