Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert!

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 28, 2010 2:00:32 GMT -5

Post by Chan on May 28, 2010 2:00:32 GMT -5

Okay, folks!

Due to the latest post on the Zeon Broadcasting thread, "SAF, MAF space and SS space members may not participate" may not participate in Jaburo.

This sucks because it means we cannot help our comrades on the ground.

The good news is that we are only in +1DE instead of all the way in Earth Orbit.

Therefore, our new target is Bollocks Fleet. Attacking Luna II Defense Fleet is a bad idea because Bollocks can just move in on the same update we attack it.

I propose we move back into +2DE (while dummy ballooning Luna II Def). Someone needs to Overwatch though.

I predict Bollocks making one of four options: 1) Attack Purgatorio or a Zeon Fleet, 2) Patrol action against us returning, 3) Following us into +1DE, or 4) wait for us while overwatching.

If they do option #1, us moving back into +2DE will find them damaged. They could pull our "Cygnus Fleet Escape" trick from when we kill Blex but then we can just move down to Side 5 and take Texas Colony.

If they do option #2, we might hit their patrol and our overwatch would put the fight in our advantage.

If they do option #3, Purgatorio is now in Side 5 and we are one step ahead of them to hit Texas Colony. Plus they would have to nudge past Helsing Fleet with dummy balloons.

If they do option #4, I can buy a mobile armor straight off on Monday as we attack. I'm considering a purely MS assault team based attack, much like the carrier battles in the Pacific theater of war in WWII.

Opinions? Questions? Thoughts? It's late and I'll put up a stat by stat comparison of our two fleets in the morning.

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 28, 2010 5:25:31 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 28, 2010 5:25:31 GMT -5

I'm a little annoyed that we're being deined a chance to redeem ourselves for not being there during Odessa, but this is the ground force's last hurrah, so I guess I can't be too unhappy.

But if we do attack, we go for their Magellans first since those are their heaviest hitters.

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 28, 2010 13:49:24 GMT -5

Post by Chan on May 28, 2010 13:49:24 GMT -5

Here's the breakdown so far of the two forces:

Zeon forces:
Ships:

Zeon Expeditionary Force:
- lvl 5 Tivvay-class "Lucifer's Fury" (100 VP)
- lvl 4 Chivvay II-class “Athena’s Wrath” (80 VP)
- lvl 4 Chivvay II-class “Nyarlathotep” (80 VP)
- lvl 4 Zanzibar II-class “Veiled Intent” (80 VP)
- lvl 3 Musai Final-class “Freyja’s Anger” (60 VP)
- lvl 2 Musai-class “Tisiphone” (40 VP)
- 2x lvl 2 Jiccos (40 VP)

Combined MS (40 NPC + 7 PC + 1 L-size + 1 MA)/Infantry(10):

“Lucifer’s Fury”
- 2x Marines (20 CP)
- 1x lvl 5 Zaku II HMT (100 VP)
- 1x lvl 5 Zaku II E (D) (100 VP)
- 1x lvl 4 Zaku Kai (80 VP)
- 10x lvl 1 Zaku Kai (20 VP)

“Athena’s Wrath”
- 2x Marines (20 CP)
- 2x lvl 4 Zaku II HMT (80 VP)
- 3x lvl 3 Zaku II HMT (60 VP)
- 1x lvl 1 Rick Dom (20 VP)

“Nyarlathotep”
- 2x Marines (20 CP)
- 1x lvl 2 Rick Dom (40 VP)
- 3x lvl 1 Zaku Kai (20 VP)

“Veiled Intent”
- 2x lvl 1 Panzergrenadier (26 CP)
- 2x lvl 3 Zaku Kai (60 VP)
- 3x lvl 1 Zaku Kai (20 VP)

“Freyja’s Anger”
- 1x Marines (20 CP)
- 2x lvl 3 Zaku Kai (60 VP)
- 1x lvl 2 Rick Dom (40 VP)
- 3x lvl 1 Zaku Kai (20 VP)

“Tisiphone”
- 1x Marines (20 CP)
- 5x lvl 1 Zaku Kai (20 VP)

2x lvl 2 Jicco (40 VP)

Players (9 Pilots and 1 Ship Captain):

-Caleb DeGrau, Gelgoog (141 + 10 VP)
-Florian Cuyler, Schnee Weis (135 +10 VP, NT 3)
-Emil Myberg, Rick Dom II (131 +10 VP) - Unstable
-Felix Mendalshon, Val Varo (125 + 10 VP, NT 2)
-Richard Banks, Rick Dom II (112 VP)
-Junichi Ghettid, Zaku Kai (106 VP)
-Yoritomo Naizen, Action Zaku (104 +10 VP)
-Veronica Wu, Chivvay II-class “Athena’s Wrath” (86 VP)
-Anya Wild, Zaku II R1 HMT (57 + 10 VP)
-Olivia Baklitskaia, Rick Dom II (45 + 10 VP)

Federal forces:
Ships:
- lvl 4 Magellan “Richmond” (80 VP)
- lvl 1 Magellan “Melbourne” (20 VP)
- lvl 5 Salamis Revised “Duke” (100 VP)
- lvl 3 Fuji, “The Factory” (60 VP)
- lvl 4 Salamis Kai “Ogre” (80 VP)
- lvl 1 Salamis Kai “Cyclops” (20 VP)
- lvl 1 Salamis Kai “Talos” (20 VP)
- lvl 3 Columbus, “Harpy” (60 VP)

MS (20 Fighter + 20 MS NPC + 4 PC + 1 Fighter PC)/Infantry(9):

“Richmond”
- 2x lvl 1 Marines (20 CP)
- 1x lvl 1 GM (20 VP)

“Melbourne”
- 1x lvl 1 Marines (20 CP)
- 1x lvl 1 GM

“Duke”
-1x lvl 1 Marines (20 CP)

“Hydra”
- 1x lvl 1 Marines (20 CP)
- 1x lvl 2 GM (40 VP)

“The Factory”
- 1x lvl 1 Marines (20 CP)
- 3x lvl 4 GM (80 VP)
- 1x lvl 1 GM (20 VP)
- 1x lvl 1 GM Command (20 VP)

“Ogre”
- 2x lvl 5 GM (100 VP)
- 1x lvl 2 GM (40 VP)
- 1x lvl 1 GM (20 VP)

“Cyclops”
- 5x lvl 1 GM (20 VP)

“Talos”
- 1x lvl 1 GM (20 VP)

“Harpy”
- 10x lvl 1 Saberfish (20 VP)
- 7x lvl 2 Saberfish (40 VP)
- 2x lvl 3 Saberfish (60 VP)
- 1x lvl 5 Saberfish (100 VP)

Players (5 Pilots and 1 Ship Captain):

-Alex Sentara, Saberfish II (133 + 10 VP) – Attacker (+10 VP when attacking)
- Jack Murphy, GM Command Space Type (131 VP)
-Derek Carter, Guncannon MPT (114 + 10 VP) – Ace (+10 VP vs force with ships)
-Patrick Foley, GM Sniper II (114 VP)
-Cassandra Elaine Beckett, Guncannon MPT (91 + 10 VP)
-Nacho Quintal, Fuji-class “The Factory” (92 VP) – Defender (+10 VP when defending)

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 2:18:53 GMT -5

Post by Chan on May 31, 2010 2:18:53 GMT -5

Okay, so apparently they took out Conscon Fleet while taking some losses themselves. We're back at +2DE at full strength. The only downside is that much of their stuff is level 2 material. Their PC's are half VP at least.

Let's hear some attack plans.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 5:28:49 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 31, 2010 5:28:49 GMT -5

I find it hard to believe he ignored us and Purgatorio in order to attack Conscon. But we should be on guard since either an Overwatch or running into the Tianem/Ohm fleet seems likely.

But the #3 plan we were going to use on Tiananem seems like a good plan, or we can use our Balloons to keep our approach hidden while we use our ships and Kuriboh to shred those Magellans. Or....we could go to Side 5 and attack Texas ourselves and draw them out, since from the looks of it, they tried joining one of the remaining Barrier fleets last time.

But how soon can we spawn those Musais at Purgatorio?

Also, is it possible to use Balloons to block someone from entering a fleet/distract the fleet so we can get at Bollocks without as much risk?

Last Edit: May 31, 2010 7:41:48 GMT -5 by Frenzy

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Radune ZMF Officer Ensign The child of the sun Posts: 428	Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 8:15:55 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Radune on May 31, 2010 8:15:55 GMT -5 No space-Jim makes me a sad panda. But other than that, can't we use Kuriboh's last plan once more, making them go PEW PEW PEW PEW-firey death? It worked so nicely the last time.

kuriboh ZMF Registered Newtype Is Miang. Maybe. Posts: 1,738	Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 11:56:30 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kuriboh on May 31, 2010 11:56:30 GMT -5 it's a matter of predictability. We've used that on bollocks once, so they'd be wary of chasing us into a shoal zone again.

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 17:27:42 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 31, 2010 17:27:42 GMT -5

16:26 Chan Dummy Balloon Fleets to surround and confuse them, keep them trying to evade the dummy fleets
16:26 Chan block them off from Tianem and Ohm that way
16:26 Chan send mobile suits and mobile armor on direct attack runs
16:26 Chan while ships encircle
16:30 Frenzy We can keep them from fleeing into the other two fleets?
16:30 Chan just use the dummy balloon fleeets and artillery supports to keep cutting them off, forcing them to turn
16:31 Chan keep the fake stuff on their heels but not quite them, just out of range
16:31 Frenzy I meant without exposing ourselves to fire from Ohm and Tianem.
16:32 Chan we can always put in a clause to pull back once we see contact with Tianem or Ohm Fleet
16:32 Chan which is why MS/MA should be ahead and ships a little bit behind
16:33 Frenzy Ah, so a bit of a race against time. I was hoping we could make it so they couldn't run at all.
16:33 Chan if you have an idea, I'm willing to hear it
16:33 Chan I also want to use Kuriboh's bits to start killing engines
16:34 Frenzy Well, other than balloon fleet blocking them like they did when we tried to crash the Phantom test, I've got nothing.
16:34 Frenzy Could we have Daren terrorist contract the two Magellans?
16:34 Chan I don't think Daren's around
16:34 Chan but BM doesn't know that
16:35 Frenzy Part of our success seems to have been Daren, so could you try seeing if he could lend us a hand?
16:36 Chan maybe, but for tomorrow's action, I think we're on our own
16:36 Frenzy Aye.
16:37 Frenzy Wish we could've been there to prevent this, though.
16:37 Chan we were going to accept the loss anyway if Jaburo happen
16:37 Chan plus we foresaw something like this
16:37 Chan we're in a position to buy two Musais and a Jicco
16:37 Chan which can siege/assault Texas Colony while we're doing other stuff
16:38 Frenzy How soon can we get those ships up and running?
16:38 Chan if anyone send me moneys tomorrow, Tuesday I can buy them and move them into Side 5. Wednesday will be the attack/siege
16:43 Frenzy Aren't we paused today?
16:43 Chan oh right
16:44 Chan if anyone send me moneys tomorrow, Wednesday I can buy them and move them into Side 5. Thursday will be the attack/siege
16:44 Chan everyone*
16:44 Frenzy Cool.
16:45 Frenzy Will we also be able to afford Zaku Kais for them?
16:45 Chan yes
16:45 Chan lvl 2 Musais with Marines and 10x Zaku Kais plus a Jicco
16:46 Frenzy Should be more than enough to take it, especially since stuff can't be bought during a seige, right?
16:46 +++ Braddigan has given op to Frenzy
16:46 +++ Braddigan has given op to Tian
16:46 Chan right
16:47 Braddigan Let me know if you guys want me to take off
16:47 Frenzy What do you think, Chan?
16:48 Chan depends on what happens tomorrow... again. They could balloon their way out of it much like what we did right after Blex
16:48 Frenzy I meant about Brad.
16:49 Chan well, I'm a bit uncomfortable about rogues but if they are affiliated with our side, I don't mind as much.
16:49 Chan After all, we had Daren in here for a while.
16:49 Braddigan Eh, you guys have enough people in here anyways, I'll take my leave
16:49 Frenzy I'm still shocked BM ignored/missed Purgatorio.
16:49 Braddigan Just make sure Radune isnt alone and DCs so nader hops in and rules it XD
16:49 *** Braddigan left #Zeon
16:49 Frenzy We should probably change the password to keep Nader out.
16:50 Chan there was no password when Nader was in here.
16:50 Frenzy Ah.
16:52 Frenzy We really need to maneuver Bollocks into a position where they can't overwatch us and can't run into a nearby NPC fleet for safety.
16:53 Chan fleeing to Texas Colony can do that for you
16:53 Frenzy So, in that case, should we wait to see if they run to Texas and move into +3DE tomorrow?
16:54 Chan no, we attack them and wear them down as they flee into Texas Colony
16:54 Chan our Musais will be fresh and undamaged as we all end up in Side 5
16:54 Chan heck, if they dash to Side 5
16:54 Chan I'll send the two Musais and Jicco to suicide attack them
16:55 Chan or better yet
16:55 Frenzy I'd rather not waste 2000+ RP like that.
16:55 Chan Siege them so they can't use their money
16:56 Frenzy Seige is good.
16:56 Frenzy Too bad we can't do that with a base...
16:56 Chan you know if they hide in a fleet up there
16:56 Chan in +2DE
16:56 Frenzy Yes?
16:57 Chan they would arrive in Side 5 the same time as those ships
16:57 Chan the second fleet.
16:57 Frenzy Hm.
17:00 Frenzy I think we could also have Kuri at the start of the battle, all-range the two Magellans - the Richmond especially.
17:00 Frenzy An L5 Magellan is trouble.
17:00 Frenzy Or just disable it.
17:00 Frenzy Force them to either stay and defend it or throw it to the wolves.
17:02 Frenzy What do you think?
17:18 Chan can her bits kill off two Magellans that quickly?
17:20 Frenzy If you hit the bridge, they're dead in the water.
17:20 Frenzy I was thinking more of forcing them into a painful choice.
17:20 Frenzy Stay and fight us off away from cover to save their ships or leave two powerful ships to be swarmed in order to save their own asses.
17:25 Chan right
17:25 Chan that may work
17:35 Frenzy Right then.

Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?

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"Success requires making every opportunity count."

Chan ZMF Officer Rear Admiral Posts: 1,348	Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 19:09:38 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chan on May 31, 2010 19:09:38 GMT -5 You know, I wonder if we can position ourselves between Bollocks and either Ohm or Tianem Fleet. Then we can use the Dummy Balloons to "fake fleet" swarm them.
	"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart." "Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person." "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on." - Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! May 31, 2010 19:31:25 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on May 31, 2010 19:31:25 GMT -5 I'm not sure I like the idea of putting us inbetween their fleets like that. Makes it too easy for a crossfire/pincer attack.
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Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! Jun 4, 2010 5:27:19 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Jun 4, 2010 5:27:19 GMT -5 Anyhow, unless there was an error, looks like we'll be able to take Texas fairly easily, though we should be careful since they might buy some GMs to damage us or whatever.
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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! Jun 4, 2010 10:22:24 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 4, 2010 10:22:24 GMT -5

I'm all for the Texas Colony attack. The Musais in Side 5 are going to join us as well.

I want to divide up the assault to different teams. Each team will be lead by a player and tasked with accomplishing an objective for taking over the colony.

I'm going to be out for most of the day, so I appreciate it if you guys call dibs and what nots while I'm gone. I will be back in time for the deadline.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! Jun 4, 2010 15:02:09 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 4, 2010 15:02:09 GMT -5

I'm going to send my e-mail in early since I'll be headed to a concert and might not be back in time for the deadline.

I'll lead the first team, though I'll just put in that I'm following your plan since I really don't think I'll be back before it's too late.

Last Edit: Jun 4, 2010 15:57:53 GMT -5 by Frenzy

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Isaiah ZMF Senior Chief Petty Officer Moves like Acguy Posts: 392	Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! Jun 5, 2010 1:24:01 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Isaiah on Jun 5, 2010 1:24:01 GMT -5 I think it's safe to assume that I have enough firepower to get rid of the door, yes? I do have a ship-class gun on my mobile suit. I'll take a position on the assault team.

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Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert! Jun 5, 2010 14:05:19 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 5, 2010 14:05:19 GMT -5

Okay good job kids, pretty good job this week.

We took out their Magellan, some GMs, and Blackmage's character. We also took over Texas Colony so now Blackmage can't use his money until he respawns. Texas Colony is also worth 120 RP a week since it seems like we captured it intact. We didn't suffer any damages from it either.

So, since today (Saturday) is an update day with a midnight (Ketara's time) deadline, I would like all of the ZEF to spar. This includes:

Caleb DeGrau
Florian Cuyler
Emil Myberg
Felix Mendalshon
Richard Banks
Junichi Ghettid
Yoritomo Naizen
Veronica Wu
Anya Wilds
Olivia Baklitskaia

Yes, I'll be participating in the spar also. We're on a colony so our repair will be reduced and quite frankly, if we can't be at Jaburo, we might as well party it up here in space.

Next week we hit Tianem, buy some Asteroid Rocket Clusters for the Asteroid Mines (the EFSF split into two fleets. One is at +1DE and the other is at +3DE), and another Musai.

Let's get cracking folks!

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

Zeon Space Week 21 & Week 22: Red Alert!

Post by Chan on May 28, 2010 2:00:32 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 28, 2010 5:25:31 GMT -5

Post by Chan on May 28, 2010 13:49:24 GMT -5

Post by Chan on May 31, 2010 2:18:53 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 31, 2010 5:28:49 GMT -5

Post by Radune on May 31, 2010 8:15:55 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on May 31, 2010 11:56:30 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 31, 2010 17:27:42 GMT -5

Post by Chan on May 31, 2010 19:09:38 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on May 31, 2010 19:31:25 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 4, 2010 5:27:19 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 4, 2010 10:22:24 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 4, 2010 15:02:09 GMT -5

Post by Isaiah on Jun 5, 2010 1:24:01 GMT -5

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