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Post by blackmage on Oct 18, 2009 10:28:36 GMT -5
I like what Daren put forward with the mines. I however would like to put forth a alternative. Chan possibly could be planning the same thing with mines. I dont like the ideal of allowing Chan to set up shop like he did last time in OYWmk4. We could go in and force the issue with ZMF and attack a NPC resupply fleet and gain some additional rp and have additional rp to put toward mines and defences for those mines. The other plan I thought of is we could go and blow up whatever mines Chan builds  I'm cool with which ever we go forward with, but like I said I dont like the ideal of allowing Chan to go around and possibly build a mine and be a major pain in the ass down the road like he was last time. |
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Post by Daren on Oct 18, 2009 14:41:07 GMT -5
You do make a good point Blackmage. From what Chan hinted at a few weeks ago when we both planned to be on zeon. He intended to build as many mines as he could. Then either capture texas colony or hit a fed npc fleet.
So it is worth considering putting that rp into a fleet first and hitting the bomer fleet at 2+. It doesn't have much in the way of ms. But it has four musai's and a bunch of gattles. But if we were gonna strike early this would have to be our target.
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Post by blackmage on Oct 18, 2009 14:45:35 GMT -5
Did you pick up anything like where he plans to place those mines? We could always stalk him to where he plans to place them and then ambush him and try and destroy the mines.
I say destroy because I figure Chan would want to plant these mines in friendly territory where Zeeks could protect it better.
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Post by Daren on Oct 18, 2009 15:00:17 GMT -5
I think he intended to build them at solomon, penzun, a bawa qu thing and side 3. So it would be to risky to go after them for now. Also should we consider hiring a rouge to buy us ms from the rouge shop. Zaku II c's could be helpful. I double checked with Ket and we can do that.
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Post by blackmage on Oct 18, 2009 17:26:24 GMT -5
Hiring a rouge for that would be a huge logistical nightmare if we get to depending on them for armaments. We will have to rely on GM e's as a mobile suit untill standard GM's are rushed into service.
A mixture of Ball's and GMe's will have to do now. I think the quality of the GMe's over Zakus will have to do. Can the Salamis carry fighters aswell? We could always throw in saberfish.
Smart tactics will have to be used in order to pull off smart attacks against Chan and his ilk. If you want me to buy a GMe or two I will forward the money to you.
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Post by blackmage on Oct 18, 2009 18:04:45 GMT -5
Ok I have a ideal of what we will do first week. Opening day have everyone duel(duh) the days afterwards is what will matter the most.
The people at Green Noah need to link up with us at 2DE(Days from Earth) while they travel, you and I will put are vp together and buy a Columbus(space carrier) we will get some other players to donate vp and we will buy some saberfish fighters(17 rp a pop). We'll have to decide where we want to travel. Maybe we will sit out one day to see what Chan does. Once we figure out what he does we will move ourselves into position to make a move against him or a NPC resupply fleet.
The one thing I must stress is that you and I both must see to it that the Columbus makes to see the following payday. We both then can lay down the money to but more saberfishs to fill out what space is left in the columbus. Whatever money we have left we can put into more quality npc pilots.
This is more to act as a stop gap till the GMs arrive in the shop while also giving us good firepower to boot. What's your opinion?
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Post by Daren on Oct 18, 2009 19:00:38 GMT -5
I agree. But I think we should head for 1+ on day one to link up with Sean and Lat. Then we can duel or spar and make purchases on Tuesday. But we will need to buy at least 3 ships to make a fleet so we need to figure in a public as well.
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Post by Daren on Oct 18, 2009 20:36:50 GMT -5
Also how do you think we should handle Radune? He doesn't want to help the group by giving rp. But he wants to get the safety of our numbers. I say we refuse him so he can learn you have to be willing to work together to do well in space.
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Post by blackmage on Oct 18, 2009 21:17:40 GMT -5
I'm cool with a little travel. I agree on the public we will have to work that in. As for Radune let him join up with us. He is in a Test Pilot corps correct. I have no intention of asking for rp off of those guys just yet. I want them to save up a little before we should consider asking for some from them.
I dont like the ideal of raiding rp from Radune because I do know how it feels to have a commander sucking you dry. I however wont lie we WILL need his rp at some point. I figure once we get to the stage where we are ready to begin building the mines is when we should start really asking for rp from him to fund those mines for protection(if we decide to make them stand alone)
Also what are his plans? If you and I do see him one of us needs to remind him this is a team game not one player is a decider of a conflict unless they are a Newtype. None the less just remind him nicely to help us no sense in being a dick and alienating a member that could be helpful down the road.
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Post by Daren on Oct 18, 2009 21:24:22 GMT -5
He's not test corps. He's a GM E in the efsf. And I agree with what your saying but in the chat the other day he flat out said he's not sharing his rp and had plans for it on his own. But since he makes so little and you can't really do much on your own in space, it seems pointless. I mean I agree about the officers bleeding you dry thing. But I can promise you this. Everyone in zeon space will be giving chan their rp. If we want to compete we have to not fall behind.
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Post by blackmage on Oct 18, 2009 23:52:10 GMT -5
Well the Radune issue has been squared away since I talked with him in the chat as you know. So were in business as far as I'm concerned.
I'll factor in the cost of everything tomorrow when I get off my ass. We should be able to swing it with no trouble.
As for what the zeeks plan to do its pretty clear in my opinion. The zeeks have two options.
option 1: Chan will gather what rp he can and lay all the doe out for some Jiccos or possibly another Musai with ms compliment and maybe a Jicco or two. After they make what purchases they can their gonna come looking for us. I hope with the course we embark on with the columbus and the public along with your ship are numerical advantage will count for something.
option 2: As you and I seem to agree. Chan very well could right out of the gate go and create some mines to gain rp right off the bat. If he does do that means he spreading his rp out to create the mines meaning whatever they buy to try and defences and armaments they buy when we all finally meet head to head we may very well have the upper hand.
I think it is possible #2 is more likely to happen but I dont see chan being stupid and putting all his eggs in one basket I see him going for #2 but only in stages(work in progress kinda thing) meanwhile he may devoulge RP into building a fleet of some sort to take us on and then when he feels comfortable he will go back to mine building.
What's your opinion?
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Post by blackmage on Oct 19, 2009 12:36:05 GMT -5
Alright I done some number crunching.
The current fleet were looking to have:Colombus(550rp), Public(220rp) plus 15 Saberfish(255rp) comes out to a total of 1025rp. Its a price I think we can swing.
I slept on it last night and thought about the issues we could have the colombus not being good and launching the other saberfish when we needed them and the last thing we need is to see 550rp+ god knows how many saberfish getting blown to hel by a group of zaku's so I thought of alternative that would give us good firepower while also helping with transporting are pc mobile suit compliment.
Alernative: Salamis(880rp)+2 Kai refits(440rp), Public(220rp) and 2 GMes(314rp) would come out to a total of 1854rp we would have to get everyones money togeth to be able to pull it off but we would have a modern fleet with plenty of firepower.
I only brought up the alternative because of my concerns with the ability of the Colombus to field Saberfish fast enough.
Which one do you like?
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Post by Daren on Oct 19, 2009 15:23:32 GMT -5
Both sound good. But I think the Columbus idea provides us with a better advantage from the number of saberfish or balls we could field. However I like both ideas. One thing I would suggest is that we pay a rouge to by a zaku detector from the zeon shop for us. That way we won't be able to get ambushed.
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Post by blackmage on Oct 19, 2009 18:36:36 GMT -5
We'll have to make contact with a rouge on that. What about the dish? Arn't they usable in space? They are multi-enviroment.
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Post by Daren on Oct 19, 2009 18:56:00 GMT -5
It doesn't look like it according to the shop page. But I say we just meet everyone at 1+ on Tuesday and see what Chans movements are to decide the make up of the fleet.
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