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Post by Kale on Nov 20, 2009 2:55:07 GMT -5
This is mostly a placeholder post, but I wanted to get the East Asia discussion started before I nod off for the night.
If the donations I listed in the Combined Operation Combat Korps threads pan out, we’ll have 2937 RP to work with as of Monday. (So let’s hope they pan out.)
Idea…
Xavier buys a Gaw and boards it. We stick Marina on the Gaw. Xavier buys 2 x aquatic MS and places those on the Gaw. We move the Basterds’ 3 MS onto the Gaw.
At the same time, we funnel a large amount of the RP to Tian or Andrew at Manila. They could use it to turn the fortification into a fortress and beef up its defenses.
Depending on where the theater goes in the next couple updates, we could either try and do some combat operations in East Asia, or we could take the Gaw into the Pacific or Atlantic. If we can avoid the patrols, we might be able to strike at the naval convoys located therein.
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Post by Chris on Nov 20, 2009 22:44:25 GMT -5
Im not keen on funneling money into Manila... While its a good holding point, the idea of East Asia is to, yes keep them occupied, but don't wanna shovel money into it that could be used in the tactical strikes against them. When Im in a better mind set will place up an idea of what I would like to run in terms of strikes and or shopping list... still a little flustered from this past week. Sorry =\
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Post by Kale on Nov 24, 2009 21:46:20 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Nov 27, 2009 10:58:16 GMT -5
U-88 Bækhesten
Lvl4(I) Jukon (Marina)
-1x lvl3 Panzergrenadier
-1x lvl2 Acguy
Aquilon
Lvl3 Gaw
-1x lvl1 Luggan
-5x lvl1 Dopps
-2x lvl1 Gunship Heli
-2x lvl1 Marines
-6x lvl1 Magella Attack tanks
-2x lvl? Goufs
-1x lvl? Zaku Cannon
My wish list :-p jus the ships, with the lvl3 for the gaw, I can afford that with 200 rp just about left over... >.> lol. will do math a little later, feelin like crap, but figured this would be incentive to move ahead and do some work on this whole deal.
I would board the Jukon, and Joseph and his two Doms would board the Gaw... >.>
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Post by Kale on Nov 28, 2009 7:11:21 GMT -5
Hmm. What's the justification for picking up another Jukon, besides in-character accuracy? Seems like those things have gotten shred to shit any time we try and field one. The Federation just seem to possess far too many Don Escargots.
Personally, I think one Gaw should do us. The remaining RP would best be filtered back to Malta for a War Factory, or go into Manila to help defend its position. You had mentioned not wanting to put RP into Manila, but wouldn't a minimal amount of RP spent at that base make it all that much harder for them to gain any ground in East Asia? We want to cause suffering in their ranks, but it's all that much more demoralizing if they amass a giant assed fleet to try and uproot our one vulnerable position in the region, only to get stopped short by a Manila-sized wall.
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Post by Kale on Nov 28, 2009 8:03:29 GMT -5
Oh! Plan!
Instead of spending RP on a new Gaw, why not transfer 1250 RP to Matthew on Monday and we'll send the Stilva (once repaired) from Malta to East Asia? The Dragon should be able to support the European or African front for a time, and this way we'd be able to spend that 1250 RP on a War Factory for Malta, without having to waste extra RP from the East Asia fund on a new captain.
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Post by Chris on Nov 28, 2009 12:20:22 GMT -5
I'm spending rest on Jukon II Then! and I have plans for bringing it up to speed and fielding it against the Don Escargots... jus requires a second gaw after the next weekend break... >.> I am going to write every day this week to help field extra money towards it.
Also, using personal RP over next week or two to refit Jukon II via Scarth with extra armor, a detector unit, and AA weapons XD
Edit: Theory is, tricking it out enough, (yes its also mostly for IC reasons as well...) and adding two aerial support units to it, or rather using the Jukon as a tactical support unit, and a quick strike at their naval ships. I believe with Two Gaws flying over head, we can control the aerial battle, leaving minimal damage to the Sub.
u-99 kinda got destroyed cuz, from what I gathered, it tried to head up against the Himalaya one on one or at least minimal air support... with the amount of aircraft that can field, probably wasn't the best idea...
And with that Gaw coming over, and after purchase of Jukon... we can start filtering money to Manila, that works. You, Daniel, and I can strike from outside, let Andrew, Tian, defend it... need to figure out what we're doing with everyone else.
Are we jus getting back Ryocha, Dan and Daniel? or is majority of Europe coming into East Asia?
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Post by Kale on Nov 28, 2009 17:15:16 GMT -5
Please don't buy the Jukon until we've had a thorough discussion about what we need to do in East Asia. I realize you've put a lot of resources into the area already, but so did the people in Europe who made Malta possible. If we can't figure out a pretty good reason for why we should have a Jukon, we really shouldn't be purchasing a Jukon. Especially if it comes between spending 950 RP on another submersible coffin, or reinforcing Malta and preparing for a siege on Belfast...
I think Ryocha will end up staying in Europe. Andrew, Tian, Daniel, you and I are the ones we're planning on having in East Asia at this point. There hasn't been a lot of talk about what the people currently sitting in Europe will do. Personally, I'd like to see them hit a more strategic target in between now and Belfast.
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Post by Chris on Nov 28, 2009 17:33:07 GMT -5
Lost a lot in game wise, and put a lot into defining characters. Honestly, Marina, IC, wouldn't have much of a clue piloting a Gaw, and I need to put her in something soon... let me know soon about jukon, cuz if you're not allowing it, then I'm switching suits...
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Post by Kale on Nov 28, 2009 17:37:44 GMT -5
I'm not -- and cannot -- veto it. I'm saying we need to discuss what we're doing in East Asia, and then build the purchasing strategy around that. Hence the text message, you strange, weird, creepy old man.
And yeah, as I stated before, you have put a lot into the game. But so have a lot of other guys, in one way or another. We need to respect both our own ambition and everyone who bothered to send the RP, or throw their characters on the line at Malta.
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Post by Zero on Nov 28, 2009 19:05:36 GMT -5
Just throwing this out there, IC Reason might be a good reason not to toss her into something she wouldn't be likely to use as a character. There's always the off chance Ket wouldn't like that (I vaguely remember reading about people tending to die if they go drastically away from what their character was) and kill off the Gaw and the Captain.
So while I can understand where Kale is coming from with how easy they tend to die, there's still those other things to consider. Chris also has a good point about 'why' the last Jukon died, we kind of left it alone, the air support didn't exactly provide much support for the Jukon.
On it's own, I think a Jukon would get pretty tore up, but with proper support and such, especially with a Captain like Marina, it'd stand a better chance at surviving I think. That's just my opinion.
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Post by Kale on Nov 28, 2009 19:08:09 GMT -5
Definitely worth considering. And if we can fit Chris's proposed refits into the budget, and Andrew decides on the Gaw Recon Type to supplement the Stilva, I'm much more optimistic about its chances of surviving.
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Post by Kale on Nov 28, 2009 20:12:04 GMT -5
Here's a quick write up of what I think we'd spend in East Asia. It's based on the estimated RP we'll have at Monday, December 7.
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Desired East Asia Fleet
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Stilva
Captain: L4
Infantry (2): 2 x Marines
Mobile Suits (6): Dom S (Aldo), 2 x L4 Dom
Tanks (6): 6 x Magella
Aircraft (8): 5 x L3 Dopp, 3 x Dopp
Gaw Reconnaisance Type[/u]
Captain: L3
Infantry (1): 1 x Marines
Aircraft (8): 8 x Dopp
Jukon II[/u]
Captain: L4I Captain (Marina)
Infantry (1): 1 x Panzergrenadiers
Mobile Suits (4): Z'Gok (Xavier), 2 x L2 Acguy, 1 x L3 Gogg
Aircraft (1): 1 x Dopp
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RP and Costs
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3609 RP
- 1250 RP for Stilva
2359 RP
Stilva
This will be purchased from Europe. I'd like to transfer its 2 x L2 Marines, 4 x L2 Magella, and the entire MS compliment to Malta before sending it to Central Asia.
We will purchase...
2 x Marines @ 20 RP
6 x Magella @ 120 RP
3 x Dopp @ 60 RP
Total @ 200 RP
- 200 RP
2159 RP
Gaw Reconnaisance Type
Hopefully Andrew chooses this, and puts it in Central Asia.
We will purchase...
1 x L3 Captain @ 200 RP
1 x Marines @ 10 RP
8 x Dopp @ 160 RP
Total @ 370 RP
-370 RP
1789 RP
Jukon II
I'm not sure what the refits Chris was talking about will cost, so I'll just estimate what I can.
We will purchase...
1 x Jukon @ 700 RP
1 x Jukon II refit @ 250 RP
1 x Panzergrenadiers @ 25 RP
2 x L2 Acguy @ 400 RP
1 x L3 Gogg @ 300 RP
Total @ 1675 RP
-1675 RP
114 RP
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