Conversations from #EF

Everyone is encouraged to come here in the forums and just hang out, we talk strategy from time to time and otherwise just have a good time. Here are some of the logs from the channel tonight. The highlights of the summary are the oh shit we don't have enough to seal off north america this week and the general talk about the white base event.

(11:49:12 PM) Jojo: UGGGGHHH
(11:49:15 PM) Jojo: I didn't get 900
(11:49:29 PM) Jojo: what a waste now
(11:49:31 PM) Radune: 900?
(11:49:35 PM) Jojo: yeah for a fortress
(11:49:40 PM) Atra: I sent you my 5
(11:49:41 PM) Radune: Oh.
(11:49:42 PM) Jojo: now we can't seal off the zeeks from north america
(11:49:50 PM) Jojo: what a huge waste of a fortification
(11:49:55 PM) Jojo: because now its a huge target
(11:49:58 PM) Maid_Latooni: Wait
(11:50:11 PM) Maid_Latooni: your entire plan revolved around everyone sending you RP on time?
(11:50:20 PM) Jojo: I asked on monday
(11:50:25 PM) Jojo: and reminded on tuesday
(11:50:30 PM) Jojo: and then begged on wednesday
(11:50:32 PM) Jojo:
(11:50:57 PM) Jojo: its my fault
(11:51:04 PM) Jojo: shouldn't have spent the money on trying to take the Gaw
(11:51:42 PM) Maid_Latooni: so now that zeon has a base in west arctic what'll you do
(11:52:35 PM) Atra: How do you already know how much you got? Did Ket tell you?
(11:53:16 PM) Jojo: I asked Ketara if Slade Garadan became active
(11:53:22 PM) Jojo: couldn't make it with out her cash
(11:53:33 PM) Maid_Latooni: wait
(11:53:44 PM) Maid_Latooni: you built this counting on an INACTIVE MEMBER's paycheck?
(11:53:48 PM) Maid_Latooni: that's just foolish
(11:54:26 PM) Maid_Latooni: oh well
(11:54:27 PM) Atra: do fortresses have to be built over a weekend, or is that just whent he patrols would spawn?
(11:54:44 PM) Maid_Latooni: They can be built as long as his build action isn't interrupted
(11:54:56 PM) Atra: and the patrols?
(11:55:04 PM) Maid_Latooni: eh probably the weekend
(11:55:54 PM) Jojo: thats just when the patrols would spawn
(11:56:11 PM) Jojo: now its... not quite as worth wild
(11:56:43 PM) Atra: how much short are you going to come up assuming everyone else sent in their money?
(11:57:18 PM) Jojo: about 200
(11:57:29 PM) Kyle_Physalis: Well, hopefully you'll get the week free
(11:57:37 PM) Maid_Latooni: No, planning to trap them isn't really a good idea anyway
(11:57:42 PM) Maid_Latooni: once you trap them
(11:57:43 PM) Maid_Latooni: then what
(11:57:45 PM) Jojo: yeah trapping them would be a good plan
(11:57:47 PM) Maid_Latooni: You didn't have a goal
(11:57:52 PM) Kyle_Physalis: Since they'll probably be running to North America
(11:58:07 PM) Maid_Latooni: to defeat white base? maybe
(11:58:34 PM) Kyle_Physalis: Hmm
(11:58:52 PM) Kyle_Physalis: Last run, Seattle was when I got to upgrade Efreet to Efreet Custom...
(11:59:01 PM) Kyle_Physalis: Hopefully that won't be the case this time
(11:59:20 PM) Kyle_Physalis: Also, hopefully Garma is not saved this time
(11:59:26 PM) Jojo: yeah
(11:59:45 PM) ***Atra will shoot Garma in the face
(11:59:52 PM) Jojo: lets send the whole fleet there
(11:59:58 PM) Maid_Latooni: half of it
(12/10/2009 12:00:05 AM) Maid_Latooni: half of it should stay in your little base for a bit
(12:00:07 AM) Jojo: yeah
(12:00:19 AM) Maid_Latooni: until you get funds to build up a defense
(12:00:22 AM) Atra: leave the broken half behind
(12:00:26 AM) Jojo: well if someone doesn't participate
(12:00:29 AM) Jojo: and they do a build action
(12:00:33 AM) Jojo: say me, then we can seal them in
(12:00:37 AM) Jojo: but I would really like a rank increase
(12:00:40 AM) Kyle_Physalis: We'll have to actually split the fleet then, I'm afraid
(12:00:40 AM) Jojo: since I missed out on the last one
(12:00:41 AM) Jojo: lol
(12:01:09 AM) Jojo: if they want to make it to there
(12:01:13 AM) Jojo: we are in luck too
(12:01:15 AM) Kyle_Physalis: You wouldn't have gotten one from Manila anyway
(12:01:20 AM) Jojo: because they need to go through west arctic now
(12:01:23 AM) Maid_Latooni: Seperate ships are more likely to get past patrols
(12:01:28 AM) Kyle_Physalis: We officers get the no lovin'
(12:01:35 AM) Radune: Oi.
(12:01:40 AM) Radune: We grunts get no lovin'.
(12:01:50 AM) Maid_Latooni: except me
(12:01:54 AM) Kyle_Physalis: And Aurem
(12:02:01 AM) Maid_Latooni: well
(12:02:09 AM) ***Atra will still be a private after White base
(12:02:11 AM) Maid_Latooni: I guess the "OH HEY YOU'RE INJURED NOW :D" balances out other things
(12:02:15 AM) Radune: Lol.
(12:02:28 AM) Jojo: its going to be rough breaking the North American patrols
(12:02:30 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Still a private, sure
(12:02:37 AM) Radune: How about my "OH HEY YOU'RE DAMAGED FOR FOUR DAYS NOW :D"?
(12:02:39 AM) Radune: :>
(12:02:41 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Yeah
(12:02:56 AM) ***Atra admits that is fun
(12:03:11 AM) Kyle_Physalis: I'm hoping he lessens the patrol rolls a bit for the incoming forces
(12:03:20 AM) Maid_Latooni: why would he
(12:03:30 AM) Radune: No wai, he won't lessen squat.
(12:03:31 AM) Jojo: he won't
(12:03:43 AM) Jojo: we have to overwhelm them
(12:03:44 AM) Maid_Latooni: but a fleet is never getting in
(12:03:45 AM) Maid_Latooni: ever
(12:03:50 AM) Jojo: and all jump at once across the border
(12:03:52 AM) Maid_Latooni: you'd hit every patrol at once
(12:03:52 AM) Jojo: like mexicans
(12:04:00 AM) Radune:
(12:04:06 AM) Jojo: a naval fleet can't get hit by the ground forces
(12:04:08 AM) Jojo:
(12:04:18 AM) Jojo: and if they did
(12:04:22 AM) Jojo: it would be a slaughter
(12:05:05 AM) Maid_Latooni: don't forget the jukon
(12:05:10 AM) Maid_Latooni: though those goggs aren't really a threat
(12:05:20 AM) Kyle_Physalis: I dunno
(12:05:22 AM) Maid_Latooni: but cyclops team could be nasty
(12:05:24 AM) Kyle_Physalis: It is Cyclops team
(12:05:33 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Ah, I see what you meant
(12:05:38 AM) Jojo: alright so....
(12:05:40 AM) Maid_Latooni: well
(12:05:45 AM) Maid_Latooni: Goggs just suck at underwater combat
(12:05:47 AM) Maid_Latooni: all they have is claws
(12:05:54 AM) Jojo: assuming the fleet moves directly to west arctic
(12:06:06 AM) Jojo: they are at the pacific at the start of week 7
(12:06:14 AM) Jojo: so then monday's action is move to west arctic
(12:06:28 AM) Jojo: this gives zero time for repairs
(12:06:39 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Does aquatic count as climate specific?
(12:06:42 AM) Maid_Latooni: no
(12:06:46 AM) Jojo: no
(12:06:57 AM) Jojo: so basically I think the fleet is going to have to sit this one out
(12:07:01 AM) Jojo: as they repair in new amsterdam
(12:07:44 AM) Maid_Latooni: you could build a repair bay now, but that'd be a waste once you get the fortress up
(12:07:49 AM) Atra: They cant repair in honolulu>
(12:07:50 AM) Atra: ?
(12:08:13 AM) Kyle_Physalis: He means instead to have the fleet go to Amsterdam to provide defense
(12:08:19 AM) Atra: oh
(12:08:20 AM) Maid_Latooni: honolulu would be a faster repair
(12:08:44 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Even still, only the Gilfaethwy would be repaired in time to make it to the event
(12:08:51 AM) Jojo: no it wouldn't
(12:08:52 AM) Atra: heck, send the C-88 with the damaged one, and let it do the repairing
(12:08:52 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Undamaged, anyhow
(12:08:58 AM) Maid_Latooni: when is the event
(12:09:01 AM) Jojo: monday move to honolu
(12:09:11 AM) Jojo: tuesday, repair
(12:09:12 AM) Maid_Latooni: <Atra> heck, send the C-88 with the damaged one, and let it do the repairing
(12:09:14 AM) Maid_Latooni: can't repair and move
(12:09:18 AM) Jojo: wednesday move to pacific
(12:09:25 AM) Jojo: thursday you aren't in North America
(12:09:26 AM) Jojo: so you fail
(12:10:10 AM) Maid_Latooni: how do we know the event is thursday
(12:10:20 AM) Atra: UC dates
(12:10:23 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Week seven, update four
(12:10:27 AM) Kyle_Physalis: On the EF board
(12:10:38 AM) Kyle_Physalis: After tonight the fleet is in the Pacific
(12:10:44 AM) Kyle_Physalis: After Thursday it's in Honolulu
(12:10:48 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Monday repairs
(12:10:57 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Tuesday goes to Pacific
(12:11:07 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Wednesday goes to North America (maybe)
(12:11:09 AM) Maid_Latooni: himalaya's untouched right
(12:11:14 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Yes
(12:11:14 AM) Atra: right
(12:11:27 AM) Jojo: oh yeah, I am skipping a day
(12:11:42 AM) Jojo: well I think, this is just imo
(12:11:45 AM) Jojo: we don't take the fleet
(12:11:48 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Actually...
(12:11:49 AM) Jojo: and just rush in with our units
(12:12:06 AM) Jojo: because.... its too... risky
(12:12:17 AM) Maid_Latooni: you'd never make it in with a fleet anyway
(12:12:20 AM) Jojo: yeah
(12:12:23 AM) Jojo: they would be beat up bad
(12:12:38 AM) Jojo: going to be hard enough with my freaking medea
(12:13:04 AM) Atra: Hire Des to send 5 different random trucks to distract the patrols
(12:13:06 AM) Maid_Latooni: I'd consider sending the him in with a few dons, tin cods, and gm divers
(12:13:21 AM) Maid_Latooni: we don't have the cash or time
(12:13:31 AM) Atra: stupid money issues
(12:13:46 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Well, if we wanted teh fleet in, it looks like actually the only ship not able to try would be the Desert Striker
(12:13:55 AM) Kyle_Physalis: I forgot they'd get two grades of repairs each day
(12:14:17 AM) Maid_Latooni: You should still split the fleet before trying the patrols
(12:14:26 AM) Atra: splinter it and try the mexican rush?
(12:14:35 AM) Kyle_Physalis: I don't like the idea, frankly
(12:14:43 AM) Maid_Latooni: Then don't send ships at all
(12:14:50 AM) Kyle_Physalis: The Hillocks couldn't defend themselves
(12:14:58 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Not well enough, at any rate
(12:15:29 AM) Maid_Latooni: because it's not a good ship
(12:16:04 AM) Maid_Latooni: well
(12:16:10 AM) Maid_Latooni: if each one had 2 don escargots...
(12:16:11 AM) Kyle_Physalis: It's a support ship
(12:16:14 AM) Kyle_Physalis: It's not meant to stand on it's own
(12:16:27 AM) Maid_Latooni: then don't send them in
(12:17:26 AM) Atra: question
(12:17:34 AM) Atra: Can Big Trays go over the ocean?
(12:17:38 AM) Jojo: I kind of like the idea of sealing the entire area off still in week 7
(12:17:46 AM) Jojo: so that after this they still can't get to North America
(12:17:53 AM) Jojo: so I think the fleet should defend New Amsterdam
(12:17:57 AM) Jojo: and repair there
(12:17:59 AM) Maid_Latooni: I think so atra
(12:18:05 AM) Jojo: so we can still have a strategic gain
(12:18:11 AM) Jojo: and trap those zeeks who made the run inside
(12:18:16 AM) Jojo: just a thought
(12:18:22 AM) Atra: I like it personally
(12:18:25 AM) Maid_Latooni: Land class ships not listed as Hovercraft cannot move to the Indian Ocean, Atlantic Ocean or Pacific Ocean locations.
(12:18:32 AM) Atra: since I really doubt the fleet will make it through the patrols
(12:18:37 AM) Atra: ah
(12:18:49 AM) Atra: that's different than I remembered, thanks Latooni
(12:19:19 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Which pretty much means... Dobdays and Samsons
(12:20:17 AM) Jojo: I want to do my build action earlier in the week then next week
(12:20:19 AM) Jojo: after I get paid
(12:20:22 AM) Jojo: if the fleet arrives then
(12:20:33 AM) Jojo: so that it can be protected
(12:20:39 AM) Maid_Latooni: kyle: and rogue trucks
(12:20:45 AM) Jojo: and the repair rate increases
(12:20:51 AM) Jojo: also then I can participate in the event
(12:20:58 AM) Jojo: doesn't bring much surprise to our actions
(12:21:00 AM) Jojo: but who knows...
(12:21:24 AM) Maid_Latooni: that's okay
(12:21:41 AM) Maid_Latooni: surprise actions are frequently surprising because they're not the most logical
(12:21:46 AM) Maid_Latooni: doing the logical thing isn't always bad
(12:22:41 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Think we should get take stuff the various fleet MS onto MS teams first?
(12:23:25 AM) Atra: Unless we refit them, they probably wont be very effective in the arctic anyway
(12:23:25 AM) Maid_Latooni: yes
(12:23:41 AM) Maid_Latooni: only PC units can be refitted I thought
(12:23:44 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Of course that looks to consist pretty much of a GM Ground and a GM...
(12:23:49 AM) Atra: oh yeah, your right
(12:24:08 AM) Jojo: I would say we leave some units in the arctic
(12:24:12 AM) Jojo: because if it is attacked
(12:24:14 AM) Maid_Latooni: take planes kyle
(12:24:19 AM) Jojo: they don't have the climate stuff either
(12:24:25 AM) ***Kyle_Physalis is kidnapping Arieta (not really)!
(12:24:27 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Mwahahaha!
(12:24:41 AM) Jojo: I wouldn't take the planes to north america, risk losing lots of them for nothing imo
(12:24:59 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Yeah
(12:25:19 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Especially not with a place for them to refuel/rearm
(12:26:25 AM) Maid_Latooni: I guess you can buy good stuff later
(12:26:39 AM) Atra: I'd counter by kidnapping Christine, but shes not very combat valuable, nor do I think Jarvis would actually mind
(12:27:17 AM) Maid_Latooni: feel free to kidnap jamitov
(12:27:27 AM) Jojo: Melissa is already kidnapped!
(12:27:31 AM) Jojo: fuck you all
(12:27:35 AM) Atra: lol
(12:28:33 AM) Kyle_Physalis: We should overthrow your mom's regime
(12:29:11 AM) Jojo: she is dead
(12:29:21 AM) Jojo: Nigel's brother killed her
(12:29:24 AM) Jojo: and took over the throne
(12:29:32 AM) Jojo: and he is more then a little crazy now
(12:30:24 AM) Kyle_Physalis: "Excuse me, Mr. Monarch? I think something is on my GM's foot, would you mind taking a look?"
(12:30:49 AM) Atra: eww you have agen- I mean monarch on your shoe?
(12:31:58 AM) Kyle_Physalis: "Shock and surprise! I have quite accidentally emptied my e-cap into the royal palace!"
(12:32:02 AM) Kyle_Physalis: "Who could have done this!?"
(12:32:17 AM) ***Atra stabs Kyle
(12:32:47 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Okay, I'm out for the night
(12:32:51 AM) Atra: As am I
(12:32:52 AM) Kyle_Physalis: Gentlemen.
(12:33:01 AM) Atra: update didnt come as quick as I thought it would