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Post by flippmoke on Jan 2, 2010 12:41:06 GMT -5
Alright so lets talk strategy again, I am tired of this lack of communication amongst all of us. You guys wanted so badly to get promotions due to the White Base event and now everyone is going to lose them because they don't say shit on the side forums.
Alright, we have the fleet currently in the West Arctic and we can block them there. Our fleet is going to be heavily out numbered except in air power and so we are going to need everyone 100% active for this entire ordeal. My operation which I spoke about earlier as far as going into the East Arctic could be limited in its effectiveness if the three Zeon PCs in East Asia decide to get invovled. So we need a way to minimize their usefulness and at the same time continuing forward with some sort of offensive operation. I don't want to get bogged down in defense.
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Post by Strikey on Jan 2, 2010 13:35:19 GMT -5
Well we could always try to ambush the 3 zeek PCs. Get people with the All range stuff to do some arterly attacks on them. That way if they do come lookin for a fight at our base we could hold them off better adding to their repair days and lessening their repair days.
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Post by dj1678 on Jan 2, 2010 14:33:56 GMT -5
That's pretty much what I was going to suggest to Strikey. Pick at them with All-range units. The only drawback I can see with this is that if you do it long enough, they'll eventually catch on to what we're doing and start ambushing our All-range units.
Other than that, I notice that all of the Zeon PC's, ships and fleets on Earth are either in California Base or Lhasa/East Asia. Everything that isn't new or a traitor is in California. I also notice that all of our non-dead/destroyed/upgrading guys will be fully repaired after the next update. To me this seems like the perfect time to hit them where it hurts when they can't really retaliate. If we move while we spend our last day repairing, we could hit either Vladivostok or something in Europe at the end of the "week." They shouldn't be able to retaliate for another day or two, since they'd have to go through a patrol and travel at least 2 days (sans paradrop).
I kind of doubt we could do it, but if we took down Constantinople in one day, Europe would be ours, and patrols would appear over the weekend. Perhaps a terrorist contact against the HQ? Even considering that, I think my vote is still for Vladivostok.
Edit: Looking at it, we could have a similar effect in Australia, though we'd be giving them an extra day to prepare and they guys in East Asia could join in pretty easily as well.
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Post by Feyd on Jan 2, 2010 14:49:33 GMT -5
I kind of think that our best option is just to strengthen the fleet and wait for them, try to force a decisive battle. If we vacate the West Arctic to go attack something they'll just seize New Amsterdam.
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Post by Strikey on Jan 2, 2010 14:59:47 GMT -5
Also we still have Gaws to worry about too. So maybe if we atleast knock out one of the gaws then we should relatively be safeish for a while. Or until they buy a new one to replace what they loss in terms of RP.
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Post by Feyd on Jan 2, 2010 15:02:39 GMT -5
That anti-Electronics Gaw would be nice to destroy as it could be a real pain later.
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Post by aleksei on Jan 2, 2010 15:06:38 GMT -5
Jojo- I don't think no one talking strategy is the issue. First, we are all coming back from a long holiday break, most of were and still are on vacation. And second, the Zeon PCs and ships have not moved from their location in North America in the last two updates, therefore it is very difficult to predict what our course of action will be to counteract them.
My observations- The Apsalus II will probably launch to Earth Orbit in the next update, and follow up with a strike on New Amsterdam or the fleet the next day. We need to make sure to have GM Snipers and be on overwatch the day it gets to Earth Orbit. If I were them, I would strike the base or the fleet with the Gaws following the Apsalus' attack or split up our forces by taking base and fleet simultaneously.
We should have all available PCs rendezvous with the fleet in the West Arctic in order to effectively counterattack any Zeon attack.
-The PCs in East Asia are actually heading to Lhasa, so if Jojo strikes the base in East Arctic in the next update, he should have two updates before they reach him.
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Post by flippmoke on Jan 2, 2010 15:51:15 GMT -5
I have saved enough RP to purchase anti orbital weapons in case the apsalus II decides to go to orbit. If the Apsalus wants to go to orbit it needs to go to a spaceport which is at odessa which means that it might take a few days for them to get there at least. I plan on seiging Vladivostok in the East Asia rather then just assaulting as we can at least force them to take me more seriously.
I don't think it would be wise for all of us to leave the west arctic as this would involve leaving New Amsterdam wide open and give them the opportunity to really punish us again. I like the fact that we have their fleet surrounded and forced to go into some sort of patrols. This means we can really punish them if they decide to do something against us because despite the fact that our fleet is under powered it the patrols give the opportunity to do some damage and or fatigue them. UNLESS they decide to push into South America, I have a feeling that they will go into the West Arctic with their entire fleet. I am sure every single one of their PCs will be in the mix as well. If for some reason their PCs decide to leave and go into orbit they might try to perform an orbital drop of some sort, however, I doubt they will find this overly effective as we can purchase anti orbital weapons that are fairly effective at New Amsterdam.
It might be wise to send one or two PCs to come help me with the seige in East Arctic. My first thought would be to just send Aurem but I would rather keep him in the West Arctic just in case the weather clears up at the turn of the week and we want to kill some Gaws. If the weather does not clear up in the West Arctic our plan should be to split them into two sections of forces and force our hand against one of them.
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Post by Feyd on Jan 2, 2010 16:02:36 GMT -5
Lhasa has a spaceport.
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Post by Advocate on Jan 2, 2010 22:33:01 GMT -5
First off sorry I missed the last two updates and that I haven't been talking much. It's just that I was talking about the White Base event for a long time and missing out on it was a huge disappointment, I kind of just stopped caring for a while.
ANYWAY. Comments on what others have said: Jojo's plan to attack Vladivostok sounds good to me, at best we destory the base at worst Jojo is wasting his time. About the Apsalus II, If I were them I'd have it orbital drop on our fleet in the middle of a battle. Why? Because our snipers would likely be too busy fending off Gaws to look up and shoot it down. Now I just hope it doesn't pull off any BS like taking out Torrington solo again.
You guys were talking about how to take out Gaws right? I've said it before and I'll say it again GM Sniper > Gaw. Aurem Senaiha is our trump card against their fleet, it's too bad they have that damn overpowered Recon Gaw the snowstorm would have been the prefect chance to lay down some hurt.
Finally, I was thinking what if the Zeon doesn't even bother with us in the West Arctic? Where do you think they would attack?
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Post by latooni on Jan 2, 2010 23:01:03 GMT -5
First off sorry I missed the last two updates and that I haven't been talking much. It's just that I was talking about the White Base event for a long time and missing out on it was a huge disappointment, I kind of just stopped caring for a while. Honestly, you probably would have just died. |
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Post by Feyd on Jan 2, 2010 23:01:56 GMT -5
Good to see you back. Finally, I was thinking what if the Zeon doesn't even bother with us in the West Arctic? Where do you think they would attack? They have a Dobday which can only travel to either the West Arctic or South America so if they want to get that out of North America they have to go through the West Arctic. Honestly, if I were them I would probably just take that massive fleet of theirs and bust out through one of the oceans leaving the Dobday behind. |
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Post by Advocate on Jan 2, 2010 23:34:38 GMT -5
Yeah Latooni I think I would have just died but I didn't know that before the event, besides I'd have gotten two promotions if did.
Well lets say they gamble with patrols and go south at least they wont have a fleet in their way. My question is what do you think their next target is? I just can't see whats in it for them to attack either the 87th Integrated Fleet or New Amsterdam. I know NA is a soft target but there are softer targets with less ships and no GM Snipers much less PC's.
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Post by sasorizero on Jan 3, 2010 0:58:57 GMT -5
I also agree with attempting building forces in the arctic, with them so heavily saturated in NA and East Asia, it leaves an opening for some of they're less well protected bases in Northern Africa and Eastern Europe in preparation for Odessa.
Placing a sizeable force in the West Arctic could simply be a trick on our part and in the case of them entering the arctic we could pick a few of them off.
As for the Apsalus II, I would imagine that they would be more likely to use it on a more significant and "under protected" target than New Amsterdam or in the Arctic. Unless they are that desperate for supreme control over the entirety of NA. Because they should be studying how New Amsterdam forces are being built up quickly.
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Post by flippmoke on Jan 3, 2010 18:33:35 GMT -5
I don't see them using the Apsalus II alone, but it is a possibility and if they do I am going to be fairly annoyed, basically because there isn't much we can do about it currently. I see them using it most likely against something like New Amsterdam, but as I said there is a reason that there are Anti orbital weapons in the shop.
I really feel that the 87th's job is really to take on their fleet, we have it cornered somewhat, now we need to kill as much of it as we can.
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