BIAS BIAS OMG

PEOPLE! Relax! I got this handled okay?

Even in death YOU GET SERVED.

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[18:25] <Ketara> JIM
[18:25] <Ketara> PLZ
[18:33] <Mother-Russia> ?
[18:33] <Mother-Russia> What?
[18:41] <KetDepressed> PLEASE WRITE THIS
[18:41] <KetDepressed> I BEG OF YOU
[18:41] <Mother-Russia> No.
[18:41] <Mother-Russia> I cannot.
[18:42] <KetDepressed> Kay well then
[18:42] <KetDepressed> RPG closed
[18:42] <Mother-Russia> Fine.
[18:42] <KetDepressed> WHY CAN'T YOU WRITE
[18:42] <Mother-Russia> I cannot meet your expectations.
[18:42] <KetDepressed> Jim
[18:42] <KetDepressed> Do not take my anger too harshly
[18:42] <KetDepressed> I love your writing
[18:43] <KetDepressed> I wouldn't ask you to write a huge event if I didn't love it
[18:43] <Mother-Russia> I mean in terms of time.
[18:43] <KetDepressed> Jojo said he would write it and I told him to fuck off
[18:43] <Mother-Russia> I can't write as quickly as you would like.
[18:43] <Mother-Russia> So I refuse to write.
[18:43] <KetDepressed> I do not care about that
[18:43] <KetDepressed> Last night I stayed up till 5 AM for a battle
[18:43] <KetDepressed> Tomorrow is a no update day
[18:44] <KetDepressed> You will do better.
[18:44] <Mother-Russia> Tsch.
[18:44] <KetDepressed> Jim I am so behind.
[18:44] <KetDepressed> I need your help.
[18:44] <Mother-Russia> Why doesn't Jojo write?
[18:44] <KetDepressed> HELP ME TONY KANG KENOBI
[18:44] <KetDepressed> YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE
[18:45] <Mother-Russia> Well, I'm going to eat dinner
[18:45] <Mother-Russia> Post whatever you have for me
[18:45] <KetDepressed> You'll do it? T_T
[19:03] <KetDepressed> Plz Jim
[19:03] <KetDepressed> Plz
[19:03] <Mother-Russia> Fine
[19:03] <Mother-Russia> I get no time limit though
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Your time limit is before sunrise.
[19:04] <Mother-Russia> Pacific sunrise?
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Yes.
[19:04] <Mother-Russia> Doable
[19:04] <KetDepressed> So like
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 12 hours
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Okay so
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Here's the deal
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Lucifers Fury - 62/61VP Tivvay (Richard Banks)
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 1x 61VP Zaku II F
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 2x 33VP Zaku II HMT
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 2x 61VP Zaku II HMT
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 1x 61VP Zaku II E
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 1x 33VP Zaku Minelayer
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 1x 28VP Jicco
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Caleb - 53VP Zaku II HMT
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Naizen - 37VP Action Zaku
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Erinyes Capsule + 2x infantry
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 3x Marine shuttle
[19:04] <KetDepressed> 2x 28VP Zaku II HMT
[19:04] <KetDepressed> Laredo Veil - 62VP Zaku II E
[19:05] <KetDepressed> -
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Monarch - 14/14VP Gwazine
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 1x 5CP Crew
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 1x 28CP Marines
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 1x 56CP Marines
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 3x 28VP Ball
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Otaktai - 15CP
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Rachel - 15CP 2NT
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Marc Simmons - 46VP 2NT GM Light Armor
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Derek Carter - 35VP Guncannon MPT
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Michael - 35VP GM Sniper II
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Issa - 50VP Gundam
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Merrimack - 84/84VP Salamis Kai
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 1x 70VP Saberfish
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Narwhal - 14/14VP Salamis (Fierte)
[19:05] <Mother-Russia> Oh fuck this one? You can't be seroius
[19:05] <KetDepressed> Assault Plan
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 1) The ZEF will attack the "Monarch" from above where the main guns cannot reach us unless the Gwazine rolls on its side. The Tivvay will be commanded by Richard Banks since he has the ship captain spec. The "Lucifer's Fury" will attract the attention of the "Monarch" but evade using the Tivvay's superior speed. The Tivvay's real goal is to draw the Salamis Kai away from the "Monarch". The Jicco will do a missile run on
[19:05] <KetDepressed> the Salamis ships in order to destroy the dummy balloons and to cause some damage to the Salamis Kai.
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 2) Wu Jinyuan will attempt a breakout from captivity onboard the "Monarch". It is his ship so he should know its layout pretty well. He and the wounded Jeanne Schwert will attempt to gain control of the bridge while the ZEF attacks. Hopefully they can also use their command overrides to shutdown the Gwazine's main weapons, engines, and lock the bridge off from the rest of the ship.
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 3) As Wu Jinyuan's breakout is underway and the Tivvay is distracting the rest of the EFSF fleet, the three Flight Support Services of 4x Marine & 1x Shuttle each, and the 2x infantry brought for the Tivvay will attempt to board the Gwazine. They will be lead by Laredo Veil of the SS in his Zaku II E and the "Erinyes" Komusai capsule with its two Zaku II HMTs. Together they will ensure the safety of the infantry in
[19:05] <KetDepressed> reaching the "Monarch". After the Marines are onboard, the Zaku II HMTs will guard the hangar doors of the Gwazine.
[19:05] <KetDepressed> 4) Take back control of the "Monarch" using the boarding infantry. Capture the EFSF players on board (especially the injured ones) if possible.
[19:05] <KetDepressed> And the fleet is moving to the Ohm fleet so Ohm will chase Zeon off after a certain length of time.
[19:05] <KetDepressed> NOW SINCE I AM SUPER BIASED
[19:05] <KetDepressed> WHAT WOULD YOU WRITE
[19:05] <KetDepressed> IF THIS WAS YOUR GAME
[19:06] <Mother-Russia> I dunno
[19:06] <Mother-Russia> I'm not allowed to decide the battle
[19:06] <KetDepressed> YES YOU ARE
[19:06] <KetDepressed> I AM ASKING YOU
[19:06] <KetDepressed> FOR YOUR OPINION
[19:07] <KetDepressed> SO TELL ME WHAT YOUR OPINION IS
[19:07] <Mother-Russia> Are they on overwatch?
[19:08] <KetDepressed> Derek Carter and Michael Kreuz are.
[19:09] <Mother-Russia> Have the EF drawn any defense plans?
[19:09] <KetDepressed> Not really.
[19:09] <Mother-Russia> How did Chan roll?
[19:09] <KetDepressed> Chan rolled an unsuccessful + not written
[19:09] <KetDepressed> Which means he can't find a way out of the cell that day
[19:09] <Mother-Russia> Okay
[19:09] <KetDepressed> So the only way for him to help is if the marines make it to him.
[19:10] <Mother-Russia> Well, damn
[19:10] <Mother-Russia> That assault plan is very short sighted. . .
[19:10] <KetDepressed> Explain.
[19:11] <Mother-Russia> Nothing about "if Chan fails his escape attempt"
[19:12] <Mother-Russia> Anyways
[19:13] <Mother-Russia> Do the marines board?
[19:13] <Mother-Russia> Or do they get blasted?
[19:13] <Mother-Russia> This is your decision to make
[19:13] <Mother-Russia> Because I would not allow them to board
[19:13] <Mother-Russia> But neither would I have let the marines in that last event board.
[19:14] <KetDepressed> We assume that, BSG style, Marines always have a way to get onto a ship.
[19:14] <Mother-Russia> I don't know BSG =/
[19:14] <KetDepressed> Basically they wear space suits and they bring welding torches and cut holes in the hull.
[19:15] <Mother-Russia> No explosive cutters?
[19:15] <KetDepressed> Whichever.
[19:15] <Mother-Russia> Alright
[19:15] <KetDepressed> But they have to get to the ship past the AA guns first.
[19:15] <Mother-Russia> Right.
[19:15] <KetDepressed> Thus why 93% of the marines in yesterdays event were killed before making it to the ship.
[19:17] <Mother-Russia> Hrm
[19:18] <Mother-Russia> So
[19:18] <Mother-Russia> Let's say that one shuttle makes it
[19:18] <Mother-Russia> Actually, let's start with the overall battle
[19:22] <KetDepressed> Continue
[19:22] <KetDepressed> Oh I have an edit.
[19:22] <KetDepressed> I want Marc Simmons to steal the Gundam and Issa Kobayashi to pilot the GM Light Armor.
[19:22] <Mother-Russia> Let's see.
[19:22] <KetDepressed> And Simmons to get a Jailed result.
[19:23] <KetDepressed> Note that the PTGelg and the Zaku II E are too badly damaged so Simmons and Caleb are taking other peoples MS
[19:23] <KetDepressed> Anyway continue.
[19:23] <Mother-Russia> You mean Caleb and Laredo?
[19:24] <KetDepressed> No.
[19:24] <KetDepressed> Err
[19:24] <KetDepressed> PTGelg and GM E
[19:24] <Mother-Russia> Oh
[19:24] <Mother-Russia> Lol
[19:24] <KetDepressed> Anyway continue.
[19:24] <Mother-Russia> Okay.
[19:24] <Mother-Russia> Where explicitly not stated, we will go with SOP
[19:24] <Mother-Russia> So the whatever fleet is moving to Ohm
[19:25] <Mother-Russia> The Zeon come on their attack run
[19:26] <Mother-Russia> From a high vector... hrm.
[19:26] <Mother-Russia> No specific loadouts, correct?
[19:26] <KetDepressed> Neg
[19:27] <Mother-Russia> Now
[19:27] <Mother-Russia> Would the Federation maintain their course to Ohm?
[19:27] <Mother-Russia> Well, yes.
[19:27] <Mother-Russia> They would.
[19:28] <Mother-Russia> The Zeon will shoot at the Federation first
[19:28] <Mother-Russia> Probably score a hit or two out of many
[19:28] <Mother-Russia> Will the Zeon attack the Gwazine?
[19:29] <KetDepressed> The Tivvays plan is to more or less engage from a safe distance and be a distraction. That's what I got out of it.
[19:29] <KetDepressed> Chan didn't include details for the MS other than the shuttle guards though, whom I'd assume would engage since they know they have a numbers advantage.
[19:29] <Mother-Russia> Do you expect the Federation to break off to meet the challenge?
[19:30] <KetDepressed> No, the Federation would high tail it for Ohm. They're worried about losing Merrimack.
[19:30] <Mother-Russia> So the Zeon will lose some time
[19:30] <Mother-Russia> Realizing that they wont attack
[19:30] <Mother-Russia> And that the Federation's path is a b-line to Ohm
[19:30] <KetDepressed> The Tivvay is much faster than either the heavily damaged Merrimack or the Gwazine, though.
[19:30] <Mother-Russia> So they will give chase.
[19:30] <Mother-Russia> Will the Gwazine's MPCs ever come into play?
[19:30] <KetDepressed> Sure.
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> Okay
[19:31] <KetDepressed> Chan wanted to attack from above
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> Right.
[19:31] <KetDepressed> But the Gwazine will just re-orient 90 degrees
[19:31] <KetDepressed> Not a big deal.
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> Right.
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> Okay
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> So they start a huge fight
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> How many shuttles make it through?
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> 1?
[19:31] <Mother-Russia> 2?
[19:31] <KetDepressed> What do you think
[19:32] <Mother-Russia> I'd say a minimum of 1
[19:32] <KetDepressed> CONTINUE SIRRUH
[19:32] <Mother-Russia> Now, the Zeon has a slight numerical advantage.
[19:33] <Mother-Russia> but not nearly enough to tie up the AA guns
[19:33] <Mother-Russia> the Zeon will have missiles
[19:33] <Mother-Russia> Still not enough
[19:33] <Mother-Russia> Zeon will have ships, but not nearly enough
[19:33] <KetDepressed> Tivvay doesn't have any missile launchers.
[19:33] <Mother-Russia> Jicco
[19:33] <KetDepressed> Oh right
[19:33] <KetDepressed> K
[19:34] <Mother-Russia> Now it's an inexperienced crew
[19:34] <Mother-Russia> But shuttles are stupid slow
[19:34] <Mother-Russia> Or at least unmaneuverable
[19:34] <Mother-Russia> Their approach vector would be quite predictable.
[19:35] <Mother-Russia> So at least 1 would get hit
[19:35] <Mother-Russia> Anyways.
[19:35] <Mother-Russia> How many are in
[19:35] <Mother-Russia> The Gwazine.... the Zeon marines are familiar with the plans?
[19:35] <KetDepressed> ?
[19:35] <KetDepressed> Presumadly the Zeon infantry have plans to the Gwazine
[19:35] <KetDepressed> But the defending infantry have the cover advantage.
[19:35] <Mother-Russia> Also, is there a skeleton Zeon crew acting as advisors for the Federation?
[19:36] <KetDepressed> No, EF brought their own crew in already, that's why it went down to lvl1.
[19:36] <Mother-Russia> Okay
[19:36] <KetDepressed> The only Zeon soldiers still remaining are Jeanne and the 10ish captives with Wu.
[19:37] <Mother-Russia> Well
[19:37] <Mother-Russia> How many marines per shuttle?
[19:37] <KetDepressed> 48
[19:37] <Mother-Russia> So 4 squads
[19:37] <KetDepressed> yes
[19:38] <Mother-Russia> Okay, if one shuttle makes it in, it'll be a bit of an even match
[19:38] <Mother-Russia> Since those are some crack marines on the Gwazine
[19:38] <Mother-Russia> Probably can easily take 2 men for each 1 they have
[19:39] <Mother-Russia> So that'll tie up a minimum of 2 Zeon squads to the 50+ VP Fed marine squad.
[19:39] <Mother-Russia> So this is your choice
[19:39] <Mother-Russia> 2 shuttles makes it in, it's no contest the Zeon will succeed
[19:39] <Mother-Russia> 1 shuttle makes it in, then you decide who wins
[19:39] <Mother-Russia> Though Zeon do have a slight edge in numbers.
[19:40] <KetDepressed> And then what about the battle with the Tivvay.
[19:40] <Mother-Russia> Tivvay is going to get trashed.
[19:40] <Mother-Russia> No doubt.
[19:40] <Mother-Russia> Heavily damaged minimum
[19:40] <KetDepressed> And the MS battle?
[19:40] <Mother-Russia> MS battle. . .
[19:41] <Mother-Russia> Honestly, it'll be a .. what is it, pyrrhic?
[19:41] <Mother-Russia> Pyrrhic victory at best for Zeon
[19:41] <KetDepressed> Okay.
[19:41] <Mother-Russia> There's just too potent of an AA compliment from the Gwazine
[19:41] <KetDepressed> Now do you want MY interperetation?
[19:41] <Mother-Russia> Yes.
[19:41] <Mother-Russia> Since that's what I'm using.
[19:41] <KetDepressed> Okay.
[19:41] <KetDepressed> So basically this battle is split into two sections.
[19:41] <KetDepressed> We have the marine battle, and the Tivvay vs. Gwazine battle.
[19:42] <KetDepressed> The issue with the marine battle IMO is that there aren't enough mobile suits supporting the shuttles.
[19:42] <KetDepressed> It's 3 shuttles and 1 komusai supported by two lvl2 Zaku II HMTs and Laredo. There are more shuttles than covering targets.
[19:44] <KetDepressed> Therefor, I would shoot down all but one shuttle. Gwazines AA coverage is teh superiority, and since the Tivvay is attacking reservedly and it is the only ship acting as a distraction for an entire fleet, some of the Gwazines secondary MPCs will train on the shuttles as well.
[19:44] <KetDepressed> Two shuttle services and one Zaku II service would have been a much better pick, IMO
[19:45] <KetDepressed> And I think you're right about the marines. One shuttles marines are somewhat even with a slight EF advantage, two shuttles Marines would be an overwhelming Zeon advantage.
[19:45] <KetDepressed> Remember that not only do the EF have the lvl4 Marines and the lvl2 Marines, but they also have the Gwazine crew, the home field advantage, and Otaktai and Rachel are fighting as infantry and each is equivalent to a single marine.
[19:46] <KetDepressed> On the flipside, I disagree with your interps of the Tivvay battle, I think that is more heavily in Zeons favor.
[19:47] <KetDepressed> The Tivvay is fighting in a reserved fashion and has 5x the VP of the Gwazine. It will probably get hit, but it is unlikely that it will take very much damage at all.
[19:48] <KetDepressed> For the MS battle, EF has an advantage in technology, but they're outnumbered 2 to 1, and unlike yesterday Zeon has the VP advantage today since they have those lvl4 Zaku HMTs and all the PCs are damaged.
[19:48] <KetDepressed> Also, Zeons MS are launching from catapults and EFs are not, unlike yesterday.
[19:49] <KetDepressed> However, you're right, between the Gwazines AA and the two Salamis, the flak barrage is going to be very difficult to get through.
[19:49] <KetDepressed> BUT, they have a pretty good target of opportunity in the heavily damaged Salamis.
[19:50] <KetDepressed> So I imagine they will engage the ships and the Federal MS with the Jicco and force them back to the ships, at which point the AA barrage will turn it into an even fight.
[19:50] <KetDepressed> But by then the shuttles will either be exploded or the marines will be in the Gwazine, at which point there's no reason for them to distract anymore.
[19:51] <KetDepressed> So I'd have them B-line for the Merrimack and destroy it.
[19:52] <KetDepressed> The Gwazine will stop being so effective because there's an infantry battle going on inside it, but around the same time Ohm probably shows up. The realization will be that even if they get Jinyuan off the Gwazine, his shuttle will get taken out on the return trip, and if they take over the Gwazine then the Ohm fleets four Magellans will just destroy it.
[19:52] <KetDepressed> So at that point Banks will order a tactical retreat. The Tivvay is much faster than anything the EF has so it can freely disengage.
[19:53] <KetDepressed> So long story short, the rescue attempt will fail, but Merrimack and Lon'Dozai will die.
[19:53] <KetDepressed> And Marc Simmons will get the first Jailed result for stealing the Gundam, which will be luls.
[19:53] <KetDepressed> What do you think
[19:53] <Mother-Russia> I'll work it
[19:54] <Mother-Russia> My only problem is
[19:55] <Mother-Russia> I don't believe the Tivvay would continue to act as a "distraction" if it knows that if the distraction isn't occuring
[19:55] <Mother-Russia> Minus that last "if"
[19:56] <KetDepressed> I dunno, Banks' char is a pretty big team player. He will have a no man left behind mentality I think.
[19:56] <Mother-Russia> Which is why I think it would go into the battle
[19:56] <KetDepressed> I think he will also be confident that the Fury's crack crew can avoid all the Gwazines shots, which it probably can.
[19:57] <KetDepressed> That wasn't the plan though, the plan was to engage reservedly.
[19:57] <KetDepressed> Have to go with the plan.
[19:57] <Mother-Russia> The plan was to engage reservedly for the purpose of distracting an enemy ship
[19:57] <KetDepressed> The "Lucifer's Fury" will attract the attention of the "Monarch" but evade using the Tivvay's superior speed. The Tivvay's real goal is to draw the Salamis Kai away from the "Monarch". The Jicco will do a missile run on the Salamis ships in order to destroy the dummy balloons and to cause some damage to the Salamis Kai.
[19:58] <Mother-Russia> With the loss of its real goal, I don't believe he would continue to just sit back.
[19:58] <KetDepressed> I think with the loss of the real goal, he would retreat. Once the shuttles are destroyed and it's realized that Ohm is coming, it becomes a no-win situation.
[19:58] <Mother-Russia> Well, that's at the end
[19:58] <KetDepressed> If he engages fully, it's 1 Tivvay vs. a Gwazine, 2 Salamis, 4 Magellans.
[19:59] <Mother-Russia> I'm inclined to believe that once they figure out that the Federation fleet is escaping to Ohm
[19:59] <KetDepressed> If he tries to get Jinyuan out, the shuttle Jinyuan is in will be easily destroyed.
[19:59] <Mother-Russia> He will press the attack.
[19:59] <KetDepressed> If he takes over the Gwazine, Ohm will still destroy it.
[19:59] <KetDepressed> In light of that, the tactical decision is to cause as much damage as possible while withdrawing.
[20:00] <Mother-Russia> The time tables are skewed here, I'm not understanding.
[20:00] <Mother-Russia> The MS launch
[20:00] <Mother-Russia> While the Tivvay is attacking
[20:00] <Mother-Russia> Or very close to
[20:00] <Mother-Russia> Couple minutes in, the Tivvay continues to fire
[20:00] <Mother-Russia> That should be enough time for any capable Federation force to display its intentions.
[20:01] <Mother-Russia> And for any capable Zeon person to read this.
[20:01] <KetDepressed> The Ohm fleet is supposed to be away from the battlefield when it begins, it doesn't engage till close to the end of the battle.
[20:01] <Mother-Russia> Right
[20:01] <Mother-Russia> So the Tivvay will not be engaging the Ohm fleet
[20:01] <Mother-Russia> At the beginning
[20:01] <Mother-Russia> Which is when I believe it would begin its closing run.
[20:01] <KetDepressed> So yes, there is a time period when the Tivvay is actively fighting the Gwazine+Salamis
[20:01] <KetDepressed> However, two things
[20:01] <KetDepressed> Chan said the primary target for the Tivvay was the Salamis and the balloons
[20:02] <Mother-Russia> Right
[20:02] <Mother-Russia> But the Jicco is to blow up the balloons as well
[20:02] <KetDepressed> Two, likely the Tivvay wouldn't try to fire serious shots at the Gwazine while Jinyuan and the Zeon marines are inside it
[20:03] <KetDepressed> So the game plan would be more of interdiction. Focus on dodging shots, apply pressure with your own guns to keep the enemy occupied, destroy Salamis if you can.
[20:03] <Mother-Russia> I just believe it would take a more active role
[20:03] <Mother-Russia> Hence the damage.
[20:03] <KetDepressed> Also remember, Tivvays don't really have much of a capital gun complement.
[20:03] <KetDepressed> It's a superfast carrier, its bombardment capability is about equal to a Salamis.
[20:04] <Mother-Russia> Well, I'm going to start writing now.
[20:04] <KetDepressed> So yeah, the Tivvay could hurt the Merrimack and the Narwhal
[20:04] <KetDepressed> But likely it would not do anything serious. The serious damage is caused by the MS.
[20:05] <KetDepressed> But you're right, there will be a time period where the no-win situation hasn't surfaced yet, and Banks will be doing everything he can to occupy the enemy fleet.
[20:06] <KetDepressed> I would just focus more on the MS than the ships, since that's where Zeon has the real advantage here.
[20:06] <KetDepressed> ARE WE IN AGREEMENT SIR?
[20:06] <Mother-Russia> I don't even know what my stance is, Eld.
[20:06] <Mother-Russia> But sure.
[20:06] <KetDepressed> :/
[20:07] <KetDepressed> U sadden me
[20:07] <KetDepressed> Now when I post this on the forums people will call me biased again.
[20:07] <Mother-Russia> Look
[20:07] <Mother-Russia> You had your own ideas
[20:07] <Mother-Russia> You had your own conclusion
[20:07] <Mother-Russia> I don't change conclusions.
[20:07] <Mother-Russia> I only change how they're achieved.
[20:07] <KetDepressed> Oh stop being so emo.
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> That's not being emo dawg.
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> That's just be being perceptive
[20:08] <KetDepressed> I wouldn't ask you for an opinion if I did not think it was worth something.
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> A devil's advocate is always nice
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> If anything, it just brings credibility.
[20:08] <KetDepressed> And, honestly, I think you are being harder on Zeon than me.
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> Of course I am
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> We have two different mind sets
[20:08] <Mother-Russia> Then again, I wouldn''t have let those marines in the first battle board.
[20:09] <Mother-Russia> I only let 1 shuttle minimum board to maintain... what was that legal term
[20:09] <Mother-Russia> Where you decide a case based on a previous case decision
[20:09] <KetDepressed> Either way we agree that Jinyuan shouldn't make it out, but you would beat up the Tivvay, which seriously reduces its likelihood of making it to safety on Monday.
[20:09] <Mother-Russia> Whatever, that thing.
[20:09] <KetDepressed> Err Thursday.
[20:09] <KetDepressed> PRECEDENCE
[20:09] <Mother-Russia> Yes, precedence
[20:09] <KetDepressed> Anyway yeah write.
[20:09] <Mother-Russia> I am attempting to follow precedence.
[20:09] <Mother-Russia> Which is why my views are so messed up cause I can't do that 100% of the time
[20:10] <KetDepressed> And fatigue everybody so there isn't a third event Thursday cuz' screw Chan and Latooni they want to make us die of exhaustion.
[20:10] <Mother-Russia> I was against this in the first place
[20:10] <Mother-Russia> Now I'm reaping what I didn't sow.
[20:10] <Mother-Russia> Fuck me.
[20:10] <KetDepressed> I SALUTE YOU
[20:10] <KetDepressed> oT

Slight correction, My Zaku E isnt damaged like you mentioned before.

(09:35:12 PM) Ketara: Anyway, I don't need this crap.
(09:35:16 PM) Ketara: I am going to relax.
(09:35:27 PM) Cid: You get way too worked up over it all.
(09:35:51 PM) Cid: When the peons like me complain, we just gotta get over it.
(09:36:21 PM) Ketara: There is something genuinely upsetting about somebody attacking you for doing something for them free of charge.
(09:36:34 PM) Ketara: "Here, have this game, it is free." "THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH."
(09:38:13 PM) Ketara: I mean.
(09:38:51 PM) Ketara: Yesterday, we had a Gwazine being attacked by 4 Salamis and a Pegasus. While that was going on, infantry tried to board, being covered by 10 Saberfish.
(09:38:54 PM) Cid: That's why I usually decide to quit when I find myself caring so much. When I'm being a jerk.
(09:39:26 PM) Ketara: The Gwazine killed 93% of the enemy infantry. The surviving infantry was a lvl3 Marine squad and a lvl1 Marine squad, and they were fighting NOTHING, so they took the ship over.
(09:39:46 PM) Ketara: Today, we had a Gwazine being attacked by 1 Tivvay. While that is going on, infantry try to board, being covered by 3 Zakus.
(09:39:47 PM) Cid: It's still fresh in their minds.
(09:39:49 PM) Cid: Just chill.
(09:40:13 PM) Ketara: The Gwazine killed 75% of the enemy infantry. The surviving infantry is 4 lvl1 Marine squads, and they are fighting 1 lvl4 Marine squad, 1 lvl2 Marine squad, and two PCs.
(09:40:19 PM) Ketara: So they DIDN'T take over the ship.
(09:40:25 PM) Ketara: Is that fair?
(09:40:32 PM) Cid: I guess!
(09:40:35 PM) Ketara: WTF
(09:40:36 PM) Ketara: FUCK YOU
(09:40:51 PM) Cid: I am clearly not the person to ask.
(09:41:00 PM) Ketara: I am asking for your opinion.
(09:41:21 PM) Cid: It seems fair enough.
(09:42:40 PM) Cid: 4 lvl1 Marines can't do much.
(09:43:02 PM) Ketara: If there were no enemy marines in the Gwazine they would have taken the ship over.
(09:43:31 PM) Ketara: Just like how, YESTERDAY, if the Gwazine had 20 RP in marines defending it, they wouldn't have lost the ship.
(09:43:35 PM) Ketara: It's the exact same deal.
(09:43:55 PM) Cid: Yeah, I was waiting for the whole "need to fill infantry slots" thing to start.
(09:44:38 PM) Ketara: That's why every single ship in every single NPC fleet has marines in it. So you can't do this shit.
(09:44:52 PM) Ketara: But because Zeon neglected to spend the 20 RP, I am biased.
(09:45:04 PM) Ketara: And then because the EF did spend the 20 RP, I am biased again.
(09:45:34 PM) Cid: Well it is a little sad that you can lose a 4000 RP ship by not spending 20 RP, but oh well. It's all part of the investment.
(09:45:54 PM) Ketara: If you leave an opening and your opponent exploits it, it's your own fault.
(09:46:00 PM) Ketara: That's part of playing a tactical wargame.
(09:46:03 PM) Ketara: Sometimes you fuck up and lose.
(09:46:45 PM) Ketara: I had a big massive victory in the last FoG tournament because one of the best players in the world charged Light Spear Swords infantry into one of my elephant units and then looked at the rules and said "Oh, swords don't count against elephants?"
(09:46:51 PM) Ketara: Shit happens.
(09:48:01 PM) Cid: I wouldn't let it bother you too much.
(09:48:21 PM) Cid: Hahah: www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=ATM10000&mode=retail
(09:48:25 PM) Cid: Look, his head is up his butt!
(09:48:34 PM) Ketara: What would be biased is if suddenly todays event outcome was different. It would be biased if suddenly the Gwazine shot down all four shuttles when it has an inferior crew, and it would be biased if suddenly lvl1 Marines can take out lvl4 Marines.
(09:48:52 PM) Ketara: But because the outcome is consistant with earlier outcomes, I am being unfair.

Can I go on record as being the one *not* complaining about bias and rolling with the punches despite everything that happen to me?

This. I didn't even bitch when Ridden toasted me.