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Post by Ketara on Jan 11, 2010 20:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by Kale on Jan 11, 2010 20:57:01 GMT -5
EFGF - Strategy - (1/11/10)Their fleet hasn't moved again, another interesting move by the zeon. My only thought would be perhaps they are waiting to purchase a larger fleet? That's a realistic possibility but I would think they'd move soon considering all their PC's are on the fleet and they haven't sparred recently. Their fleet hasn't moved again, another interesting move by the zeon. My only thought would be perhaps they are waiting to purchase a larger fleet? I think I see what's going on, they may be waiting for Ando Shoji to upgrade. That would make sense, and it would also be after the weekend update so they could restock the fleet. Another thought, Perhaps Kyle should buy another Medea that I could hop on and that Medea could then join the Pacific naval convoy. That way I could purchase services if it were attacked. This would allow the rest of you to retreat to the West Arctic and repair/prepare for the Zeek assault. Also possible they might move today, now that a number of our PCs are gone from the arctic. The 9th Combined Operations Fleet is at California Base wont it take 2 days to move to the arctic? You guys could paradrop in on them in that case. Only if the Medeas managed to get by all their North American patrols, which is fairly unlikely. Yes, I think it is quite possible that they move there today. I am thinking actions should be for the PCs in the 42nd brigade to move back to the west Arctic and the 42nd brigade to move to repair at Honolulu. Not to rush you guys, but any chance I could get my orders soon? I gotta head off to do some errands and I wanna make sure it gets done today. Not to rush you guys, but any chance I could get my orders soon? I gotta head off to do some errands and I wanna make sure it gets done today. I'm thinking you and me are joining the 87th. I'm thinking you and me are joining the 87th. Yes this would be pretty much exactly what you would be doing. I think we should put ourselves in a better position to attack Archangelisk with the 87th next week by investing in New Amsterdam's defenses. I still think Kyle should buy me a Medea so I can get on it and join the Pacific Naval convoy, that way if it is attacked I can purchase services for the battle, the 42nd Brigade could also retreat and repair then. If they attack the pacific convoy.. they will pay dearly for it. I mean it would be UGLY. I donno, they have several NPC's doms and a Grabro. Those could tear up the Snails and Hillocks that are the Convoy's only defense. If Im there, we can throw 12 Fly Mantas into the mix that could at least help keep the snails alive. Sorry the orders are up so late, I didn't have time till this time of the day: Aurem Senaiha: Stay with the 42nd Brigade Cray Vermillion: No orders Edmund Blackadder: No orders Jack Murphy: No orders Jay Tessa: No orders Jim Irwin: No orders Seth Yamanu: No orders Zanzen Hosei: No orders Jarvis Ackart: Move to West Arctic, send 270 RP to Aleskei, save RP Suzaku Selffaw: no orders Bigby Wolfe: No orders, if you can though duel someone to get experience with your new machine. Charles Gano: Move to south america Hirsch Munchek: Move to south america Thorvald Siggurdson: Move to West Arctic EVEN IF THIS BOARD IS COMPROMISED. Continue to do what we always do here as if it was not, if we do feel it is as such the officers will likely talk more strategy and such with out you all in the officers forums but activity here will remain the same. I will continue to post orders and some strategy thoughts here. Why you might ask, the answer is really simple, it is meant to be a reward to be able to gain access to the other side's forums. In the spirit of the game we would not know that in fact it has been compromised more then likely. Your promotions/demotions still depend on it even if it is compromised. Encrypting communication talk etc. This has been frowned upon by Ketara many times, it means he would have to decrypt it as well as we would. This basically makes their reward for gaining access to these boards frowned upon. If you communicate in only encrypted information, it will annoy Ketara and it will result in your demotion none the less. So for all of these reasons, I ask you even if we suddenly become compromised please continue to use the boards as normal. acknowledged, will continue my usual meaningless babble. My flow of bad ideas shall not cease, nor shall my support for even more outrageously bad ideas from others dwindle. So, what do you guys think we should do? I'm sure Latooni and Blackmage have a few plans, but it'd be interesting to see where everyone else stands regarding the remainder of the week. Right now its about holding Chan at a secure location until we have access to the zeek boards. After that we can go and handle our business with the zeeks in 3e. Yeah, I'm going to refit a salamis and keep on moving to Luna II. Not a very exciting update. my plan is fun 'n games at space texas. Nader: Ask Ket what are your respawn options. If you have the option to respawn close to Luna II take it. That way you can link up with the fleet and stuff. I'M JAILED BROSKIS Seriously though, I have nothing. I'm just rolling with the Gwazine. Nader: Ask Ket what are your respawn options. If you have the option to respawn close to Luna II take it. That way you can link up with the fleet and stuff. If he's joining as the G-Armor he'll probably start at Green Noah in Side 7. Orders are a bit out of order today, but it is done so it makes more sense as I go along. Basically we are attacking the zeon fleet in the pacific with a large force. So this might be a little complex. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE SENDING IN YOUR OWN STRATEGY FOR THE ATTACK. Jarvis Ackart- Purchase a Medea, and use it as the basis for a new fleet. This will hence forth be known as Kyle's Medea Fleet. Get on board your Medea. Purchase Fleet support for your fleet, it can support up to 9 aircraft in fleet support and still do a paradrop action. You fleet will then paradrop attack the SS fleet in the pacific. Save room for Aurem and his MS team will take up your entire medea minus one extra vehicle so buy a tin cod or something with that slot. The job of your medea in the operation will be to cover Seth's Medea and shoot down AA turrets on the Gaw and any mobile suits on Dodai YS in the area. Seth Yamanu - Purchase a Medea and make it join Kyle's Medea Fleet. Do not purchase so much to fill this medea as Thorvald Siggurdson will be getting on board this medea as well. Your task will be to board the Gaw in mid flight. Thorvald is in charge of making an opening large enough for your marines to fight their way into the Gaw. Suzaku Selffaw - Purchase a Medea and make it join Kyle's Medea Fleet. You will have Edmund Blackadder get on board your Medea as well. If you would like fill your vehicle slot with an aircraft. Your task in the fight will be to cover the Big Tray during combat. Nigel Ferdinand (myself) - I will be purchasing a Big Tray and will be attacking the SS fleet with my newly created fleet. My two Medeas will be doing the same thing the pair attacking the Gaw will be doing. One will be attempting to drop off a marines into the gaw while another flies along in support. The Big tray will support the don escargots as they are attempting to sink the Jukons. Aurem Senaiha - Get on Jarvis Ackart's Medea Cray Vermillion - Join the 87th Integrated Fleet. Edmund Blackadder - Get on Suzaku Selffaw's medea. Jack Murphy - Join the 87th Integrated Fleet Jim Irwin - Attack the SS fleet as we have already agreed upon. Zanzen Hosei - Join the 87th Integrated Fleet. Bigby Wolfe - Move to the West Arctic Charles Gano - Move to South America. Thorvald Siggurdson - Get on Seth Yamanu's medea Alright. Whether this goes well or not, by the time we've recovered from it, the Zeon land fleet should have done something. Whether they have or not, I'll be taking people on the unnamed future assault. Details on that will be revealed closer to time, as details come in and we're sure this board is not compromised. I've sent my email, emailed and texted Suzaku his, and am trying to actually get through to his cell phone and verbally convey them to him as well. Those MS participating in the mission against the SS fleet please include in your emails what your optional armaments will be, etc. It is better that way, also if you want add a little bit of your own plan into it. I already sent in an e-mail today but I'll send another and hopefully Ket will take the addendum. He should take the addition, I want to see Marion surfing a Gaw anyhow. oh well hopefully the order is still good, i sent in my action with my GM making the hole but hopefully ket will let my character think on his feet. Alright, drama llama has exited the scene, my son's first birthday went off without a hitch, and things are back to normal for me to check on here. Good times, guys. Good times. Welcome back. We'll try and get you murdering things soon. Awesome. I'll send in the action to join the 87th come Monday. [/u][/quote] Ok I'll admit it. You guys were right and I was wrong.....Can I still have a room on the Gwazine  Hey, there's room for the entire EFSF AND EFGF on the Gwazine. PARTY AT THE BRIDGE! so now the once feared Zeon Expeditionary Force consists of a Tivvay, a Jicco and an overglorified escape pod. we should probably start working out how to hit the mines soon. We may have paid a huge price for the Gwazine, but it's only a waste if we fail to make use of this victory. Yeah, hopefully the Gwazine can break through the weak hanger doors of a mine... unlike Radune. Make sure you repair that beast! [/u][/quote] Irony.[/quote] EFSF Actions 1/8Alright, the Tivvay's run away, but Zeon PCs are still in the area. Gwazine will be headed to Luna II regardless of the deal with Chan. Sean, I think now would be a good time to transfer that bucket of RP. Fierte, I don't mind if you keep that RP at all, but I'm curious what you're going to do with it? I'd also like to know how many of those publics are real, if any. I personally recommend you upgrade to a Salamis Revised once we get to Luna II. Everyone who jumped ship, I'd like you to head to Texas, just in case the zeeks try to attack it. I'll be buying a salamis there anyway, with added defenses if they move close. We're still going to go with what we planned a few weeks ago, don't worry. It's just been pushed back, though now we have a better hand. understood, I am now a Space Texan. Right-o. This damage is going to take a while to shake off qq Sean, I'd like to append something; I'd like you to head to Texas as well. No. I have plans for my rp, for once. :p Yeah, I'll head for texas. Can I at least hear what they are? If you want a ship I have no problem with transferring control of a ship to you (though I'd prefer any Named NPC ships to have shitloads of rocket launchers instead of being a salamis kai) Nupe! and ... NUPE  You'll know soon enough, it'll work out. If it doesn't, you'll suddenly have a bunch of RP in the next few days, either way. Feyd, lets talk about the attack today: I would like to catch them off guard: Lets start with my purchases: Starting RP: 1496 Big Tray: 900 RP 18 x Tin Cod = 162 RP 1 x Dish = 36 RP 5 x Don Escargots = 180 RP Fleet Support: 6 x Tin Cod = 54 RP 3 x Depp Rog = 108 RP Total RP Left: 56 RP ======= Kyle's purchases: Starting RP: 1350 RP Medea: 270 RP 1 x Tin Cod: 9 RP Edmund Blackadder Aurem Senaiha Suzaku Selffaw Total RP Cost: 279 RP ========== Seth Yamanu purchases: Medea: 270 RP Seth Yamanu & MS Team Thorvald Siggurdson ============= Jim Irwin purchases: 2 x Services Fill up MS team ============== The two new medeas with the people listed in the West arctic perform a paradrop action on SS Tactical Operations Fleet. Myself and my new fleet will engage it as well with Jim Irwin. Alright so the basic plan of the attack is that Seth and his marines along with the medeas in my group try to get near the Gaw Recon where my marines and Seth's marines can storm it and try to take it. All of the Tin Cods will cover them during this operation. Everyone else will be on the Big Tray to do support and protect the rest of the group to the best of their ability. Don Escargots pounding the water to hell etc. You would post this right as I'm writing up a post for a different assault. We'll go along with this one for now, ours can wait. I'm going to hold of posting the plans for it, though, just in case the board is compromised RADUNE! Suzaku could also purchase a medea then you guys coming out of the West Arctic could make a fleet and bring more airpower. I don't like the Big Tray over water with all those aquatic MS and subs around, makes it too easy of a target, I'd just stick with another Medea as I think we should have air superiority already. I also think you should keep some RP in reserve so we can possibly have more attacks this week. I also don't like the idea of trying to capture the Recon Gaw unless we manage to shoot it down and can board it then. That thing has high AA capabilities and this will only lead to heavy casualties. Blowing it up should be good enough, let's not get greedy. I also don't know that all the West Arctic people in MS need to come since it will be difficult for them to deploy since we'll be in open ocean. Not to mention I anticipate the Zeon Cock fleet to move to NA today and West Artic on the update after that since all the Zeek PC's have boarded it. Good points we were hashing out many of the same number of them in our talks not long ago here in #EF chat room. If we want to blow it up though I would still suggest we get the big tray. It gives us a LOT more air power since it can hold a lot of vehicles. It is also a good thing we could plug our current GM sniper into and blow away their Gaw in the air. I know that their aquatic MS pose a threat but, there are only two of them currently. The Acguy and Chris. We can use the GM CCT on the big tray and the don escargots to protect us from that perhaps? Then we could also have one medea loaded with MS flying around the Big Tray to provide cover fire through straffing against any aquatic MS as well, or if they could make it onto the Big Tray mid fight, help there. That leaves only the air battle which I think we should have the numbers to easily win, which is part of why I wanted to try to capture the recon gaw. It also gives Seth Yamanu something to do. As of right now, I would say lets go with the destroy plan, but you never know. It could work and we could end up with a gaw... I guess the Big Tray makes sense the more I think about it, I assumed they would attack the Convoy and we would have their planes but the Zeeks may just go into Overwatch. Maybe switch like 6-8 of the Tin Cods on the Big Tray to Fly Mantas cause they hit harder and could help against MS. We'll have plenty of Tin Cods. You could also turn the Dish into another Snail since you already have one and the Recon Gaw will negate them anyway. Also what are you going to use your free service on, another flight support of Fly Mantas? I don't think the capture plan is going to work since unlike in space, if the bridge crew stops flying the Gaw could crash but it's your call. Chris has 1235 RP so I'd anticipate some more Marine MS and/or Dopps. I also still don't see how we're going to have more than 2-3 MS standing on the Big Tray and I don't think the others will be able to effectively fire out the back of a Medea if they can at all. I am not sure on my free support, If we wanted to destroy the gaw, I was going to use sniper support, otherwise was going to perhaps go with the don escargot support. Also I don't think I want to get the fly mantas because they will have MS on dodai YS and I really want to overwhelm them with tin cods. Yeah, but Fly Mantas have more Missles and heavier machine guns and are still faster than a Dodai. Good point, I will purchase some. Well whatever you end up deciding I'll specify in my email that I'm following your plan. I'll also purchase 3 Tin Cods for my MS team and 2 Tin Cod flight supports. ok don't forget that its half price in friendly territory for the flight support. SO ARE WE GOING WITH THE ATTEMPT TO CAPTURE THE GAW OR NOT? LET ME HEAR YOUR VOTE! Your call, i don't know what i'd be doing if we are not capturing it ?? What kind of vote is that? I say no on capture. And the more I look at the plan, the more I'm thinking it's not quite crazy enough to work, and more regular crazy. But it's doing something, and that's better than what we've had so far. ?? What kind of vote is that? Must be a no... I keep flipping back and forth, but my gut instinct says that capturing wont work. Just too many risk factors. I vote we just plain shoot it down and be rid of it. I say we try it, mostly because its only one medea that is going in for it and its worth 270 RP. If it works we get a Recon Gaw, if it doesn't work, we kill the whole thing. I might add, I am too flip flopping on the idea. (03:41:48 PM) Jojo: Kusuriurite: do you want to do it? (03:41:55 PM) Jojo: thats what it really comes down to for me (03:42:12 PM) Kusuriurite: i wanna do something for the pride of the Marines (03:42:18 PM) Jojo: ok then we are doing it Jojo, I can purchase 2 flight supports of Tin Cods and fill the rest of my MS team with them. You can buy another Medea and restock your fleet with planes and use your free support service on a flight support of Fly Mantas. (Pack more of a punch that could be used against MS) Primary objectives are to take out the Recon Gaw and maintain air superiority so our Snails can harass their subs. Your thoughts? Lets move this conversation to the strategy post.  These are the current locations of the various space forces in the RPG, I will update this as fleets move, and repost. Sexy. Chan would probably get a boner. Nah, his superiority complex would kick in. Sexy. Chan would probably get a boner. Wait until we get access to their boards. If Lat's character can't suduce him and get the password then you will have to hold him for me. I will get him to talk...I just need to respawn first. BTW awsome map. May I suggest you add transit note aswell? Like what fleets are traveling? Understand what I'm talking about? I get what you mean, but I'll just update it as they move. I mostly intend it as a visual reference for where things are in the now. It's easier on my mind than constantly rechecking the fleets page. Updated to 01/07/10. ZEF is now simply the Lucifer's Fury. Lucifer's Fury has joined ZMF Space Supply Fleet and both have moved to 3E. EFSF 1st Supply Fleet has moved to 1E. JDEG Transport Fleet Beta has left the Earthsphere and is now at 6E. The Pacific-Something is up considering the number of Zeon PC's trying to get in there not to mention the fleet that's already there. My guess is that they're going to try and hit the naval convoy to get those RP credits. Strategy- Thursday 1/7: Jojo's two Medeas and myself move to the Pacific. Friday 1/8: Jojo buys another Medea to reform his fleet, restocks, we purchase a couple flight supports and attack the Zeek fleet. Primary target is the Recon Gaw. The interesting thing will be whether they attack the Naval Convoy on Thursday or wait for more PC's (Aldo Armistad among others) and attack on Friday. If they attack on Thursday they'll probably handle the convoy pretty easily considering they'll have air superiority and will be able to take out all the Snails to keep their subs safe. But they may also sustain some damage making it easier for us when we hit them on Friday. If they wait till Friday we'll attack them as they attack the convoy meaing that the convoy will have fewer losses but our PC forces will face a stronger force and most likely have higher losses. Our advantge comes with the fact that this battle should be taking place in the open ocean making it difficult for regualr MS to deploy. Regular Zeon MS will have to ride Dodais that can be shot out by our fighters. Doms, although capable of skating across the water, will sink quickly if the jets on their legs are shot up. This is a double edged sword though as none of our PC MS will be able to deploy effectively, that's why I'd limit this to Jojo and myself. If for some reason their fleet vacates the Pacific we would still be able to paradrop on them. The Pacific-Something is up considering the number of Zeon PC's trying to get in there not to mention the fleet that's already there. My guess is that they're going to try and hit the naval convoy to get those RP credits. Strategy- Thursday 1/7: Jojo's two Medeas and myself move to the Pacific. Friday 1/8: Jojo buys another Medea to reform his fleet, restocks, we purchase a couple flight supports and attack the Zeek fleet. Primary target is the Recon Gaw. The interesting thing will be whether they attack the Naval Convoy on Thursday or wait for more PC's (Aldo Armistad among others) and attack on Friday. If they attack on Thursday they'll probably handle the convoy pretty easily considering they'll have air superiority and will be able to take out all the Snails to keep their subs safe. But they may also sustain some damage making it easier for us when we hit them on Friday. If they wait till Friday we'll attack them as they attack the convoy meaing that the convoy will have fewer losses but our PC forces will face a stronger force and most likely have higher losses. Our advantge comes with the fact that this battle should be taking place in the open ocean making it difficult for regualr MS to deploy. Regular Zeon MS will have to ride Dodais that can be shot out by our fighters. Doms, although capable of skating across the water, will sink quickly if the jets on their legs are shot up. This is a double edged sword though as none of our PC MS will be able to deploy effectively, that's why I'd limit this to Jojo and myself. If for some reason their fleet vacates the Pacific we would still be able to paradrop on them. I was literally about to post this same strategy. Feyd, I love you for saving me the time and that you agree 100%. The EFGF 3rd Naval Convoy OF COURSE! I forgot those things existed! I was wondering why they would be massing in the Pacific when Honolulu could send them packing. Anyway if I was them I'd attack now rather then later, waiting would bring the wrath of the EF on their heads in the middle of an assault and that wouldn't end well. Either way you guys will be able to catch them though, and for once advantage us. I think they want us to bring the 87th out of the West Arctic by this move in order for them to make a push into the West Arctic. I don't really feel like moving it however, as I really like keeping their fleet fairly contained currently. I agree, the Convoy isn't worth letting their fleet get out of NA for. I really, really approve of this. Ugh, this would be so much easier with my aquatic team! =/ I do approve of this strategy, though I would like to know what the 87th is going to be doing. I don't like that we have half a dozen PC's just sitting in West Arctic hoping somebody comes by. Well sparring is really your only option, because keeping the same number of Zeeks bottled up in NA is definitely worth it. I say let them out. Ketara said it was getting boring on Earth, and I agree. If they want to sit there and stockpile, or wait us out, or whatever it is they are doing, then why not let them? Hit them somewhere it'll hurt and be proactive for a change, rather than reactive. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks sitting in the arctic, waiting and sparring is boring and terrible for character growth though. If that's the case then I'll just shutup and color. Your welcome to do what you want but I predict they'll try to break out soon. I would say their split fleet is probably for the reasons listed. The mobile group will attack stuff, and try to lure us out, then the ground fleet with take New Amsterdam. I think we need to stock Amsterdam with its own stuff fairly soon so the fleet isn't necessary to keep it from dying. Personally, I'd like to see our fleet go take out Archangelisk. I think we're capable with what forces we have, though a few more GM Divers would help out with the current composition... I would say their split fleet is probably for the reasons listed. The mobile group will attack stuff, and try to lure us out, then the ground fleet with take New Amsterdam. I think we need to stock Amsterdam with its own stuff fairly soon so the fleet isn't necessary to keep it from dying. Personally, I'd like to see our fleet go take out Archangelisk. I think we're capable with what forces we have, though a few more GM Divers would help out with the current composition... Seconded, capturing Archangelisk would restrict Zeon's sea related movement even more and help prepare for Odessa. I can definitely see how that would be a useful thing to do, currently I don't mind the whole fleet being bottled up in the West Arctic. We have more dead people then they do, getting them back into the fight for us will be very helpful. Yeah you should at least wait for Aleksei to upgrade before attempting any assault with the ships. Unless Xavier and his fleet manage to break out of the Pacific after Jojo's attack, the Zeeks won't have any other choice but to try to beat the patrols. We've taken out their secret weapon for at least 5 days and I don't think they are willing to hold out any longer with Jojo raiding everything. All we need to do is have some patience. Agreed, we wait for them to do something like push into enemy territory then we can pounce them like I am doing when they are damaged and repairing etc. I appreciate you guys sending me that email. I've been busy all week, but next week I'll be more active on here. Just lots of RL crap keeping me pinned from checking this. Basic plan for the week: All the RP going to Jarvis will be used to increase the power of the fleet in the West Arctic. Any RP going to me will be used to either improve defences at New Amsterdam or on attacks against the SS fleet in the Pacific. Aurem Senaiha - Send RP to Jarvis Ackart (If you want to get climate refit feel free, but I somewhat feel we have enough of them so don't worry about it too much) Cray Vermillion - Send RP to Jarvis Ackart Edmund Blackadder - Spar Zanzen Hosei, Send RP to Jarvis Ackart Jack Murphy - Send RP to Jarvis Ackart Jay Tessa - Move to Pacific, Send RP to Nigel Ferdinand Jim Irwin - Move to Pacific, Send RP to Nigel Ferdinand Seth Yamanu - Send RP to Jarvis Ackart Zanzen Hosei - Spar Edmund Blackadder, Send RP to Jarvis Ackart Jarvis Ackart - Have fleet Patrol, should recieve a lot of RP to build more things for the fleet. Suzaku Selffaw - Send RP to Nigel Ferdinand Bigby Wolfe - Send RP to Nigel Ferdinand, Move to West Arctic Charles Gano - Move to South America, Save RP Hirsch Munchek - Purchase upgraded pilot for Aqua GM suit, send rest of RP to Charles Gano Thorvald Siggurdson - Put up another RP post! Send RP to Jarvis Ackart I'll send you 300 RP Jojo, but I'm gonna hold onto the rest for awhile to keep our options open. Is the RP for Charles Gano gonna be used to purchase a MS? We buying a new ship? Maybe then we could shift some units around and I could join the fleet, eh? Also you think it would be ok if I spared with Jack Murphy? I'm getting behind VP wise. I think it's fine. Especially since you're not a part of the fleet at the moment. Aurem and I will also be sparring. I don't think the patrol will catch anything today, but just in case we're including some instruction to have live weapons nearby. I think it's fine. Especially since you're not a part of the fleet at the moment. Aurem and I will also be sparring. I don't think the patrol will catch anything today, but just in case we're including some instruction to have live weapons nearby. Too bad it wouldn't work that way for me and Jack, our weapons are strapped to us. Anyway I dropped Flession a line hopefully he gets it in time. I think it's fine. Especially since you're not a part of the fleet at the moment. Aurem and I will also be sparring. I don't think the patrol will catch anything today, but just in case we're including some instruction to have live weapons nearby. Too bad it wouldn't work that way for me and Jack, our weapons are strapped to us. Anyway I dropped Flession a line hopefully he gets it in time. So move from Rio back to Jaburo or just to somewhere in South America? So move from Rio back to Jaburo or just to somewhere in South America? He means just move to South America. In this game various regions are considered locations just like bases. So 'South America' is a location that you can be at. You don't even need to specify a specific place in South America, just 'South America' works. Hope that helps. Let us know if the you have any questions about the movement system Everyone should transfer their RP to me, and everyone in an MS (except me and altoh and aku) should disembark the fleet, and move either to Texas, 1e, or just dick around 2e. I don't really care; everyone has damage points to repair, and a few days to waste, and I don't want Ridden beating them up. I'll be holding off one tick to watch what the Tivvay does before purchasing, though I might fill the Gwazine with Saberfish for the time being. You really should think about repairing that Gwazine. Yeah, I'm aware. I'll be headed for Luna II next action. If you're going to buy anything for the Gwazine you might as well buy GM's instead of Saberfish since that's what's going to go there anyway. I'd only be able to buy 3, max. And there's just no point in that. I'd only be able to buy 3, max. And there's just no point in that. understood, sending email. Latooni usually starts this stuff, but since he left last night implying internet troubles. I figured I'd get it started for him. OK, as you all know, we just captured a Gwazine in a crazy battle. We also took heavy losses, but at the moment, the Zeon are in worse shape than we are for once. I'd love to just say "Now lets have at those mines!" but I can't. Wednesday is the 'weekend' for this gameplay week, and thus we can't hit the mines before Zeon gets paid. On the plus side, the EFSF finally has more cash than Zeon's space forces, and from the looks of things, this will also be the case after payday. I want to attack the mines, but at the same time I've got to expect that the ZEF(what's left of it) wants their ship back. I propose we work out a plan that we plan toward splitting our forces. Keep the ZEF busy with a fleet centered around the Gwazine, while sending a small strike force to meet up with Radune and start killing mines. Zeon will catch up to us on RP by the payday after this coming one. We will have to devise a plan that maximizes effect while minimizing cost, otherwise we'll wind up back where we started. With luck, the ZEF will make an attack on our fleet before they're ready, and we can eliminate the Tivvay. I would appreciate everyone's thoughts on this, space and ground forces alike. Latooni will probably have an amazing plan, but lets not get caught with our pants down if he doesn't. Well I think your plan for today should be to make a run for Texas or join up with Ohm. That's probably a good idea. I would suggest moving to Texas or someplace else with a cellblock. Someone should also make an interrogation post with Chan, unless you want to kill him. (Too bad BM's character died...) Yeah, I would definitely interrogate him. My thoughts on this is that we should hold up with the Ohm fleet and maximize are ability to hold Chan. The Ohm fleet will act as a good deterrant against the ZEF. While we do that we could take some of our members and have them run to TX colony to cut off the ZEF incase they were plotting to capture it all along. Once are team members get there we could begin cyphering off rp to them so they could buy more ships so we can rebuild the fleet(B-type would be nice for the damaged ships in our fleet). While they are gathering up someone will have to make an interrogation post with Chan, we could gain the Zeek board password and atleast know what the bastards are plotting. This info could also be useful to the EFGF aswell. I figure are guys should spend no more then 1 to weeks at TX colony at the most. With the rp we draw in we would have a respectable fleet and we could set out for those damn mines. That sounds good, but I'm just concerned about how we can actually pull out right now. It's pretty likely that the Zeeks are going to attack, and we're not really in any position to defend ourselves. We need to get Fierte to join the fleet today. Latooni needs to get here so we can move the fleet to join Ohm, but that probably won't save us from this fight. We will have to check with Ket on that one. Because joining a fleet is a non action I assume it would mean when they go to attack us they will be fighting us and the Ohm fleet. Keep in mind its possible they may want to turtle up too. They could joing one of the Zeek fleets in 2e for protection against us. The TX team should have nothing to worry about. They wont know they are leaving the fleet. Gwazine and balloons are joining the Ohm fleet for now, Merrimack (which I actually value more than the Gwazine) is heading to Side 5 with 3 PCs on board. The Gwazine will be heading to either Side 7 or Luna II, depending on movement on earth. There aren't any orders really, everyone should just cross their fingers. Should I join the Damocles force or the Ohm fleet? Well, I'll scout stuff, I guess. Should I join the Damocles force or the Ohm fleet? Head to Texas Colony, we'll refit your ship. Glad to see you're with us, sorry I didn't get info to you in time. Yes, Radune, scouting stuff would be cool. ok I already sent in action. I guess tommorow I will head to Texas Colony AYE AYE MA'AM. SCOUTING IS WHAT I SHALL DO. My suggestion: Get chan into a location with a fortified cell block. I don't want the opportunity to take his Gwazine back to even exist. Chan is smart enough and has the resources to do it, lets just play conservative in that area right now. That being said, I think it might do us some justice to break out and scout/spar/ambush. OK since we're all fatigued and damaged for a few days, I suggest we take this time to bet some ships and move the Gwazine to Luna II. Latooni can buy ships from Texas without physically being there, so we could buy ships, send them to meet us, have our PCs tranfer over from the Gwazine, and send the Gwazine to Luna II along with our prisoner. It might be wise to send a newtype back with him, as that adds a modifier against him escaping. Also if possible we should transfer a full compliment of marines to each ship we have, because we can't make the mistake that got us the Gwazine in the first place. Aside from that, I suggest we move our group to Texas for repairs, using the new fleet to keep the Tivvay and whatever Zeon buys to supplement it in check. Once we're patched up, we might be in position to finally hit the mines hardcore. ....Yeah. I've been thinking it might be a really good idea for every PC that can to get off the fleet, in case Ridden hits it tomorrow. You could just have the Gwazine join the EFSF 1st Resupply fleet since it will be heading to Luna II. I think it would be fine if you all just went to Texas considering Chan's release will probably be negotiated within the next day or so. Ridden eh? That could be a real problem. So maybe we scatter everyone out of the fleet and split for Texas? Send the Gwazine with the 1st Resupply Fleet and pray that Ridden picks a less than important target? BTW everyone should be able to leave the fleet aside from Altoh, since he's jailed. But we could tranfer him to a cell on Fierte's ship maybe. If you guys all leave the Ohm fleet on Thursday you would most likely be gone before Ridden is possibly intercepted by the Ohm blockade. If you guys all leave the Ohm fleet on Thursday you would most likely be gone before Ridden is possibly intercepted by the Ohm blockade. I feel that Ket would be upset if I left, for I'd be joining/leaving constantly to evade attacks, which he said no to already. I think I'll let the ships stay, and I'll stay with the Gwazine for NT bonus, but I encourage all PCs to jump ship. Head to Texas or something. "Or something" is a pretty nebulous destination, it might be hard to find. Taking navigational difficulties into account from that, Texas is our best bet. Why don't you all just go to Texas, Gwazine included? cause that would be joining/unjoining fleets to avoid battles, which Ket said no to. Send the Gwazine to Luna II. Send the Gwazine to Luna II. Plan to. Just not this update. I don't see how it's joining/unjoining fleets if after the update the ship would be at 1de. If the Zeeks wanted to attack the Gwazine they would still be able to, probably without Ohm's protection. The only way Ridden can 'attack' you is if you are in Ohm and Ohm blocks Ridden which is not a sure thing. I don't see how leaving Ohm would be 'avoiding an attack' in this instance since the attack is not certain. Because if Zeon's Tivvay wished to attack the Gwazine, they'd have to target the Ohm fleet.
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Post by Kale on Jan 11, 2010 21:46:42 GMT -5
EFGF - Strategy - (1/05/10)First off lets all have a golf clap for the EFSF who just captured a Gwazine. Alright now lets get down to business: The two fleets that they now have in the Zeon ground forces is interesting. It almost makes me believe that they will be pushing towards the pacific ocean. All my hopes and dreams might be realized. The Aspalus II is in the open just waiting for a paradrop. I will be targeting it with the entire 42nd Brigade, with any luck we can destroy it right away. Suggestion on purchases when attacking it? Maybe one or two GM Snipers supports and a flight support of Fly Mantas. Snipers can try to get a shot on the reactor, maybe after you shoot it down with fighters. Fly Mantas pack more of a punch than Tin Cods and since he has no fighters you'll tear him up. You'll need to hit it fast, and hit it HARD. If it gets a chance, it can outpace you pretty easily. As for the fleets, I'd say the SS will probably head through an ocean, while the 9th goes north. Might want to move the 87 into New Amsterdam? I am in enemy territory and can't get services. I would say the 87th should stand its ground and if damaged it can pull back into New Amsterdam. It can make a patrol action and can help our other patrols really beat the hell out of anything that decides to make its way across the border. I am in enemy territory and can't get services. I thought you could since the attack would take place in contested territory but I don't remember the paradrop rules that well. Anyway, any kind of fighter should tear him up. First off lets all have a golf clap for the EFSF who just captured a Gwazine. Alright now lets get down to business: The two fleets that they now have in the Zeon ground forces is interesting. It almost makes me believe that they will be pushing towards the pacific ocean. Believe it! Seriously, unless they think their going to sink our battleships with undetectable subs. We can just counter that with a well placed M-Particle bomb then no one can see, that or mass snails. If I am in position in the East Arctic by the end of the day it gives us coverage on a possible move by him into the pacific today, but it is likely they won't move in there till later on in the week. I can send you some of my rp so you can throw more at the aspalus It won't arrive till after I have already attack him. The SS fleet will definitely take advantage of my absence by attacking either our fleet or New Amsterdam in the coming days. Xavier Brennan has many in character reasons, particularly redeeming his losses at Manila. Still he doesn't have the mobile suit force to do serious damage. Jojo- Good luck! If we have enough snails and maybe a couple more GM Divers for the Himalaya we should do alright. With all the PC's joining the fleet today, there is zero room left in the fleet for anything. They can always move off it another day. In the off chance they decide to push into the West Arctic today, we have more people on board the fleet. That means more damage to them. Next week with more RP we can purchase more stuff for the fleet. [15:37] <Jojo> I am sending your character a post card [15:37] <Jojo> saying wish you were here [15:37] <Atra> lol [15:37] <Jojo> after I stand on top of the destroyed Aps [15:37] <Jojo>  [15:38] <Atra> Postcard would actually make up for not being there. XD [15:38] <Jojo> and if necessary [15:38] <Jojo> I shall continue with operation donkey stomp lone zeeks [15:39] <Atra> If it gets boring in the arctic, I'd like to join you. [15:39] <Jojo> I don't think it will [15:40] <Atra> Also I had an idea while sitting in one of my boring military doctrine classes, that I'm working out the bugs to. I'll let you know if I think it's feasible. [15:41] <Jojo> ok [15:47] <Atra> Ok, I've looked at the RP cost for both sides, and I think it could be worth it. [15:48] <Jojo> oh? [15:49] <Atra> Basically, I propose we build a fortification somewhere in contested territory and leave it basically undefended. This costs us 300 RP. we also keep at least 400 more in reserve. We then use this base as bait to lure in a fleet of Gaws, and on the day we feel sure they are going to attack, buy the max ammount of SAMs the base can hold and paradrop a PC force in on top of them. [15:50] <Atra> If we take out even 1 Gaw before losing the base, it's a net RP gain for us. [15:51] <Jojo> its interesting [15:51] <Jojo> did you include the cost for a targeting center? [15:51] <Atra> No, but if you include a targetting center, a perimeter wall and 10 more SAMs the price maxes at 1440 [15:52] <Jojo> personally for the cost [15:52] <Jojo> the Large MPC are more worth your wild [15:52] <Jojo> thats why I bought them at New Amsterdam [15:53] <Atra> The idea was less to build a permanent base, but more to build a throwaway base to lure them in to a fight with our advantage. If the base survives, it's more of a bonus. [15:54] <Jojo> eh, I would rather pack up some GM snipers [15:54] <Jojo> and make it mobile [15:54] <Jojo> and multi use [15:54] <Atra> Because that's been working so well for you lately. [15:55] <Jojo> Well snow storms don't ALWAYS happen everywhere in the world [15:55] <Jojo> plus I have aircraft now that want to kill stupid Gaws [15:55] <Jojo> and they are getting experience by killing Apsalus IIs [15:55] <Jojo> [15:56] <Atra> I'm not saying do it now. Something to think about for later. [15:56] <Jojo> yeah, I like the idea though [15:56] <Atra> I think it would make the Zeon follow our pace for a while. I already sent my action for today but you can have my RP on Thursday. I feel the Zeeks are smart enough to see through the bait. An undefended base in contested territory? They'd send a PC or two to capture it before they send in their Gaws. I remember thinking that too. I also seem to remember thinking of a cheap way to overcome that. But I think since I was operating on one hour of sleep during that particular class, and due to the fact that any form of military doctrine is incredibly boring, I lost focus and forgot whatever method that was. If nothing else it would be fairly easy to leave a PC or two in the vicinity to constantly ambush/all-range attack anyone that tries to assault the base without a fleet. Then it would just be a matter of guessing when the fleet would show up. I feel sure this was not my original solution though... All right so here come the orders like a crazy wombat at you. Aurem Senaiha - Move to 87th Integrated Fleet Cray Vermillion - Purchase Arctic Climate Refit Edmund Blackadder - Move to 87th Integrated Fleet Jack Murphy - Move to 8th Integrated Fleet Jay Tessa - Scout Vladivostok Jim Irwin - No orders Seth Yamanu - No orders Zanzen Hosei - No orders Arden Massenfer - No orders Jarvis Ackart - Move to 87th Integrated Fleet, Order Fleet to Make Patrol Action Bigby Wolfe - No orders Charles Gano - Move to South America Hirsch Munchek - No orders Jane Sheppard - No orders Jack Verse - No orders Thorvald Siggurdson - Move to 87th Integrated Fleet Orders received, email sent. Purchases for today: Buying infantry at New Amsterdam and aboard the Meru. If the capturing of the gwazine taught us anything it is that you shouldn't leave your ships with out infantry. (Especially with that nasty SS dude that Chris has now), replacing the loses for the 42nd Brigades actions yesterday, wish it would have gone done with less damage and loses but it will have to do for now. Starting RP: 982 == Purchases at New Amsterdam == 10 x Infantry: 90 RP Repair Airfield: 50 RP Repair Outerwall: 50 RP Total New Amsterdam: 190 RP == Purchases on 87th Integrated: == Meru: 4 x Infantry: 40 RP Total 87th Integrated: 40 RP == Purchases for 42nd Brigade: == Chicken Little: 1 x lvl 3 GM Sniper: 540 RP Saint James: 2 x Jet Core Booster: 60 RP Fleet Support: 3 x Tin Cod: 27 RP 1 x Depp Rog: 36 RP Total 42nd Brigade: 663 RP == Total Cost == Total Cost: 663 + 40 + 190 = 893 RP RP Remaining: 91 RP Well since I got only 4 Update days till i'm back in action I might as well do some RPing I was just going to say something about ships needing infantry... Cray Vermillion - Purchase Arctic Climate Refit Sorry can't do: - Note: Only available to PC mobile suits, can be put on a refitted unit. By the way I'm not joining the fleet? Am I supposed to attack them from behind or something? Well Seth Yamanu has one and he's infantry. I think the rule means it only applies to PC units. Well Seth Yamanu has one and he's infantry. I think the rule means it only applies to PC units. I don't think you guys remember Ket gave that to him because he was being nice and Kusuriurite is new, he got a 150 RP penalty for it though. He tried to buy it for his entire MS team, let me go ask Ket if you can apply to that your vehicle though. (12:37:43 PM) Jojo: Does the cold climate refit work for our little tank PC as well? (12:37:49 PM) KetAFK: Sure. The general thoughts I took from the strategy thread lead me to believe we should keep a fairly heavy concentration in the West Arctic this week. Please send me your RP if you haven't already, also there is no one noted in my spar area here, so please organize a general spar on this thread. Aurem Senaiha - No orders Cray Vermillion - Move to West Arctic Edmund Blackadder - Spar Jack Murphy - Spar Jay Tessa - Move to East Arctic Jim Irwin - Write an RP about getting out of North America Seth Yamanu - Spar Zanzen Hosei - Spar Jarvis Ackart - No orders Suzaku Selffaw - Spar Bigby Wolfe - Move to West Arctic Charles Gano - Move to West Arctic Thorvald Siggurdson - Move to West Arctic (OR YOU COULD DIE) What are you going to do, Jojo? Have you thought about the possibility of paradropping onto RF-2 and bombing it? Could net you 1000RP. I would hit the patrols in North Africa, and not be able to go past. My plan was to continue with my operation in East Arctic, do you think this unwise? Who would like to spar with me? Haha, I'm finally moving to New Amsterdam. Sorry about flaking for a few days. Hopefully I don't get mass ambushed at some point... I would hit the patrols in North Africa, and not be able to go past. My plan was to continue with my operation in East Arctic, do you think this unwise? It's up to you. They're both good options. I liked the East Arctic option because it gives me a quicker route to the West Arctic if I am needed. Who would like to spar with me? I'll spar with you. I like the safer option, Jojo. What do you mean by that Aleksei? I think he means there are no patrols in east arctic. Edit: Also, these are probably the easiest orders I've ever had. Sieging the East Arctic from the air. You won't suffer that many losses and it will distract Zeon, perhaps even splitting their forces. (01:20:18 PM) Jojo: Are you going to say that Medea's can't fly indefinitely? (01:22:39 PM) Ketara: They have to land for like an hour or two every other day. (01:23:02 PM) Jojo: are you going to take this into account if I seige? (01:23:09 PM) Jojo: with a pure airborne force? (01:23:13 PM) Ketara: Maybe. Alright coop sounds good. I'm going to suggest something that may sound crazy but don't you think it's about time we let people save their money and get MS teams? Well the thing about MS teams is that you'll need MS's that'll give you advantages. For instance for the flying units would need more ground support that air supports, also tanks are gonna need a mix of both. Basically the MS teams would be needed to strengthen the areas where the PC is weakest at. If we're at the point where we're just stockpiling money for a rainy day, I say we start buying MS teams... They're not going to be prohibitively expensive, for the most part, and as long as individual PCs get teams that complement their own abilities, I think whatever cost will be offset by success in battle. That having been said, I feel like this iteration of OYW is even more sensitive to the individual capabilities of units, so I'd be all for discussion regarding what people buy--not only do we want the MS teams to complement the player's unit but they also have to complement the EFGF's forces as a whole. Stockpiling some money for a rainy day is important as it allows us to be more reactionary to what they might be doing, and when we are attempting to kill their fleet it is exactly how we need to be to a point. I might also note that I have never told anyone not to get a MS team if they want to get one. As for my actions, I think it is too risky with lower level units to try my odds against something the size of that fortification alone. It is too risky and we would lose too much, if I had higher level pilots I would feel more comfortable. However, I could push and attempt to kill some patrols in the deserts of North Africa and just gain some experience for the fleet I am using currently. It would also give us the chance to kill RF-2 which could yield some nice RP that we need currently. Therefore I am going with Feyd's suggestion and pushing the 42nd Brigade back into North Africa. I also really need a scouting of Vladivostok before I would try any bombing operation on it. I'm going to suggest something that may sound crazy but don't you think it's about time we let people save their money and get MS teams? Having a MS Team for everyone is nice since it provides good support in fights. However, if your going to be joining a fleet its not a good idea since it makes it harder for us to see what forces we have/need to purchase to fill the fleet. To that end, I'm not saying you have to give us your RP or not to buy a MS Team. I'm just saying its easier for fleet commanders if you donate your RP to allow us to easily fill the fleet. Again, only if your in or joining a fleet for an operation. Sorry it took so long for me to move, my life has been suck but i sent in to move to west artic. PS: i want to buy a Exp pilot and a maybe a type 74 or a dish for an rp idea so ill need to save my RP for this and maybe next week depending on the unit i decide to get. Guys, I've been busy for the past couple of days and will be for the remainder of the week. PLEASE email me my orders. I don't wanna fall behind, but you gotta let me know, otherwise I won't do it. I think we need to be working as a team and investing in a communal RP pot more than ever. It's the only thing that is stopping Zeon from completely running a train on the EFGF. Alright so lets talk strategy again, I am tired of this lack of communication amongst all of us. You guys wanted so badly to get promotions due to the White Base event and now everyone is going to lose them because they don't say shit on the side forums. Alright, we have the fleet currently in the West Arctic and we can block them there. Our fleet is going to be heavily out numbered except in air power and so we are going to need everyone 100% active for this entire ordeal. My operation which I spoke about earlier as far as going into the East Arctic could be limited in its effectiveness if the three Zeon PCs in East Asia decide to get invovled. So we need a way to minimize their usefulness and at the same time continuing forward with some sort of offensive operation. I don't want to get bogged down in defense. Well we could always try to ambush the 3 zeek PCs. Get people with the All range stuff to do some arterly attacks on them. That way if they do come lookin for a fight at our base we could hold them off better adding to their repair days and lessening their repair days. That's pretty much what I was going to suggest to Strikey. Pick at them with All-range units. The only drawback I can see with this is that if you do it long enough, they'll eventually catch on to what we're doing and start ambushing our All-range units. Other than that, I notice that all of the Zeon PC's, ships and fleets on Earth are either in California Base or Lhasa/East Asia. Everything that isn't new or a traitor is in California. I also notice that all of our non-dead/destroyed/upgrading guys will be fully repaired after the next update. To me this seems like the perfect time to hit them where it hurts when they can't really retaliate. If we move while we spend our last day repairing, we could hit either Vladivostok or something in Europe at the end of the "week." They shouldn't be able to retaliate for another day or two, since they'd have to go through a patrol and travel at least 2 days (sans paradrop). I kind of doubt we could do it, but if we took down Constantinople in one day, Europe would be ours, and patrols would appear over the weekend. Perhaps a terrorist contact against the HQ? Even considering that, I think my vote is still for Vladivostok. Edit: Looking at it, we could have a similar effect in Australia, though we'd be giving them an extra day to prepare and they guys in East Asia could join in pretty easily as well. I kind of think that our best option is just to strengthen the fleet and wait for them, try to force a decisive battle. If we vacate the West Arctic to go attack something they'll just seize New Amsterdam. Also we still have Gaws to worry about too. So maybe if we atleast knock out one of the gaws then we should relatively be safeish for a while. Or until they buy a new one to replace what they loss in terms of RP. That anti-Electronics Gaw would be nice to destroy as it could be a real pain later. Jojo- I don't think no one talking strategy is the issue. First, we are all coming back from a long holiday break, most of were and still are on vacation. And second, the Zeon PCs and ships have not moved from their location in North America in the last two updates, therefore it is very difficult to predict what our course of action will be to counteract them. My observations- The Apsalus II will probably launch to Earth Orbit in the next update, and follow up with a strike on New Amsterdam or the fleet the next day. We need to make sure to have GM Snipers and be on overwatch the day it gets to Earth Orbit. If I were them, I would strike the base or the fleet with the Gaws following the Apsalus' attack or split up our forces by taking base and fleet simultaneously. We should have all available PCs rendezvous with the fleet in the West Arctic in order to effectively counterattack any Zeon attack. -The PCs in East Asia are actually heading to Lhasa, so if Jojo strikes the base in East Arctic in the next update, he should have two updates before they reach him. I have saved enough RP to purchase anti orbital weapons in case the apsalus II decides to go to orbit. If the Apsalus wants to go to orbit it needs to go to a spaceport which is at odessa which means that it might take a few days for them to get there at least. I plan on seiging Vladivostok in the East Asia rather then just assaulting as we can at least force them to take me more seriously. I don't think it would be wise for all of us to leave the west arctic as this would involve leaving New Amsterdam wide open and give them the opportunity to really punish us again. I like the fact that we have their fleet surrounded and forced to go into some sort of patrols. This means we can really punish them if they decide to do something against us because despite the fact that our fleet is under powered it the patrols give the opportunity to do some damage and or fatigue them. UNLESS they decide to push into South America, I have a feeling that they will go into the West Arctic with their entire fleet. I am sure every single one of their PCs will be in the mix as well. If for some reason their PCs decide to leave and go into orbit they might try to perform an orbital drop of some sort, however, I doubt they will find this overly effective as we can purchase anti orbital weapons that are fairly effective at New Amsterdam. It might be wise to send one or two PCs to come help me with the seige in East Arctic. My first thought would be to just send Aurem but I would rather keep him in the West Arctic just in case the weather clears up at the turn of the week and we want to kill some Gaws. If the weather does not clear up in the West Arctic our plan should be to split them into two sections of forces and force our hand against one of them. First off sorry I missed the last two updates and that I haven't been talking much. It's just that I was talking about the White Base event for a long time and missing out on it was a huge disappointment, I kind of just stopped caring for a while. ANYWAY. Comments on what others have said: Jojo's plan to attack Vladivostok sounds good to me, at best we destory the base at worst Jojo is wasting his time. About the Apsalus II, If I were them I'd have it orbital drop on our fleet in the middle of a battle. Why? Because our snipers would likely be too busy fending off Gaws to look up and shoot it down. Now I just hope it doesn't pull off any BS like taking out Torrington solo again. You guys were talking about how to take out Gaws right? I've said it before and I'll say it again GM Sniper > Gaw. Aurem Senaiha is our trump card against their fleet, it's too bad they have that damn overpowered Recon Gaw the snowstorm would have been the prefect chance to lay down some hurt. Finally, I was thinking what if the Zeon doesn't even bother with us in the West Arctic? Where do you think they would attack? First off sorry I missed the last two updates and that I haven't been talking much. It's just that I was talking about the White Base event for a long time and missing out on it was a huge disappointment, I kind of just stopped caring for a while. Honestly, you probably would have just died. Good to see you back. Finally, I was thinking what if the Zeon doesn't even bother with us in the West Arctic? Where do you think they would attack? They have a Dobday which can only travel to either the West Arctic or South America so if they want to get that out of North America they have to go through the West Arctic. Honestly, if I were them I would probably just take that massive fleet of theirs and bust out through one of the oceans leaving the Dobday behind. Yeah Latooni I think I would have just died but I didn't know that before the event, besides I'd have gotten two promotions if did. Well lets say they gamble with patrols and go south at least they wont have a fleet in their way. My question is what do you think their next target is? I just can't see whats in it for them to attack either the 87th Integrated Fleet or New Amsterdam. I know NA is a soft target but there are softer targets with less ships and no GM Snipers much less PC's. I also agree with attempting building forces in the arctic, with them so heavily saturated in NA and East Asia, it leaves an opening for some of they're less well protected bases in Northern Africa and Eastern Europe in preparation for Odessa. Placing a sizeable force in the West Arctic could simply be a trick on our part and in the case of them entering the arctic we could pick a few of them off. As for the Apsalus II, I would imagine that they would be more likely to use it on a more significant and "under protected" target than New Amsterdam or in the Arctic. Unless they are that desperate for supreme control over the entirety of NA. Because they should be studying how New Amsterdam forces are being built up quickly. I don't see them using the Apsalus II alone, but it is a possibility and if they do I am going to be fairly annoyed, basically because there isn't much we can do about it currently. I see them using it most likely against something like New Amsterdam, but as I said there is a reason that there are Anti orbital weapons in the shop. I really feel that the 87th's job is really to take on their fleet, we have it cornered somewhat, now we need to kill as much of it as we can. Good to see you back. They have a Dobday which can only travel to either the West Arctic or South America so if they want to get that out of North America they have to go through the West Arctic. Honestly, if I were them I would probably just take that massive fleet of theirs and bust out through one of the oceans leaving the Dobday behind. I could see them busting through one of the oceans, but where do we place ourselves to be in position to respond? I could see them busting through one of the oceans, but where do we place ourselves to be in position to respond? The answer to that question is where do you think they would be going? Most likely I'd say the Pacific since the weakest targets are in that direction (Southeast Asia HQ & Torrington.) Some how I doubt they are going to seige Belfast to try and take Europe by storm since we'd likely respond by coming in behind them and well... You can guess how that would end. I don't see them using the Apsalus II alone, but it is a possibility and if they do I am going to be fairly annoyed, basically because there isn't much we can do about it currently. I see them using it most likely against something like New Amsterdam, but as I said there is a reason that there are Anti orbital weapons in the shop. I really feel that the 87th's job is really to take on their fleet, we have it cornered somewhat, now we need to kill as much of it as we can. With the Apsalus II remaining in Lhasa/Eastern Asia it should (as Latooni said) be a priority to retake earth orbit. Giving Chan's fleet a black eye is the first step in the right direction if we want to bottleneck Zeon's operations around the earth sphere and stop the Apsalus II. I don't really think it would be worth our time to try to block them from moving through the oceans since there are too many unknowns with that. I'd say there's still a very strong chance they're going to try to get out through the West Arcitc like we've been preparing for. As for possible Zeon targets, East Asia and Australia seem like pretty logical choices to me. Sieging Hughendon seems like a nice proposal, it would free up any threat Zeon poses to us in Australia and just one step towards surrounding East Asia. Core booster is teh mines and i got my profile up so fell free to RP with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! In order to control earth orbit we need to take out a base with one of their spaceports which is no small task. Having looked at some things, I think the Zeeks are going to leave the Dobday for now, and break out for SE Asia HQ. I could be wrong on that, of course, but if I am not, I think we should go for Archangelisk. First, I don't see how we could stop them from taking SEA HQ if they attack it. I'm also not sure it would be worth the resources of trying. Archangelisk is a decent prize. It's defenses are some of the weakest left Zeon has on Earth, and is arguably easier to take than Vladivostok, since we wouldn't have to deal with Vlad's NT Zock. It would even out Europe again, since Malta isn't exactly a major stronghold right now. We'd need to get some more MS for the fleet, but otherwise I think it's doable. This is, of course, completely assuming they don't go up to the arctic. If they do that, defending New Amsterdam definitely takes priority. In order to control earth orbit we need to take out a base with one of their spaceports which is no small task. Technically you just need to destroy the spaceport. Well, today it's pretty simple. You guys can pretty much do absolutely nothing if you want, things are just moving into position. We'll be moving into 3e Monday. Fierte, sean, Aku, if you actually read this stuff, I'd like you to leave a reply or something on this thread. I'd love to include you guys whenever I can, and it's not hard to get you involved as long as you're on the ship/fleet, but I need to just be aware of your activity level; especially yours, Fierte. I'll either need you to be here several action days in a row, or sit this excursion out; since otherwise you'll be left with units set out specifically to die. Radune, if you can arrange it, I'd like you to spar with Sphinx-Goddess. If you can't, move to 3e. Altoh, you can try to move to 2e again if you want, but if you fail, don't worry about it, we'll be in there soon enough. Hey, Side 2 is completely empty, this is a perfect chance for me to finally be useful and kill some mines, so I think that willl be a better choice of action. Sure, why not. You won't be able to hit L3, though, and you might miss a rank-up if we succeed, if you care. It'd divert zeon's funds, at least. And if you manage to destroy a mine, you might get promoted. Just got back from out of town but for now just tell me where you need me and what you need me to do. I can start strategising better after I understand the flow of the game just a little more. Wow. In that case, if you get this in time, join the Damocles Strike Force, load your missile/rocket launchers with 14 anti-beam and 6 MIRV missiles/rockets, and buy a service of 3 public balloons (which will cost 154 RP), and have them form a fleet (name it whatever you want) and blockade 2e. Oh, and also say in your email that you're following my plan.
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Post by Kale on Jan 11, 2010 22:32:28 GMT -5
'K. That's all I can do for this week. Classes start on Wednesday, so I won't be able to jump back on and copy/paste anymore. If someone else wants to pick up from here, I left off on "Long-range goals for EFSF+EFGF (Raw idea thread) (Read 252 times)". It's about three or four posts from the top, on page 1.
Also, I don't know if the regular Zeons have access to the EF board. If not, we may want to go ahead and transfer stuff pasted here to our enlisted men.
Good luck guys.
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Post by Zero on Jan 12, 2010 4:52:49 GMT -5
1/12/10 EFSF actionsWell, honestly, right now we have a severe case of downtime while we wait for our fleet to be repaired, so most of you can really fuck around and spar or do whatever the fuck you want. Feel free to attack PCs, but gauge your own strength. If you're in 2e, think about Overwatching. If you battle, focus on light and fast, and be ready to withdraw if zeon shows up. If you go on overwatch, specify your armament, and then specify that you will be avoiding and moving away from any suspicious contacts and all minovsky particle clouds. Our future plans are being shifted to mine-raiding Side 4, since I used my little trick against the enemy fleet earlier than I thought. This way we'll have the option of falling back to Side 1 OR side 3 to split their forces up, and we can repair at Side 1. Best of all, if they decide to attack us while repairing at Side 1, we would be defending the CMC, and raise our standing with them while lowering Zeon's. I'd use Side 6 but I don't think Zeon's foolish enough to pick a fight there, while their overconfidence and anger may urge them to fight us at Side 1 even after reading this. :smug: Anyway, we have a long weekend, so make sure and RP it up a little, people!
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Post by Zero on Jan 12, 2010 17:40:13 GMT -5
1/12/10 EFGF OrdersDoing the orders early today to avoid a debacle, if you object and want a different idea, let me know. Aurem Senaiha - Move to West Arctic Cray Vermillion - No orders Edmund Blackadder - No orders Jack Murphy - Join 87th Integrated Fleet Jay Tessa - Move to West Arctic Jim Irwin - Move to West Arctic Seth Yamanu - Move yourself and your medea to the west arctic. Bigby Wolfe - Join 87th Integrated Charles Gano - Move to Pacific Hirsch Munchek - Move to Pacific Scott Archer - Move to South America Thorvald Siggurdson - Move to West Arctic Aaron McCaskey - Move to West Arctic Jarvis Ackart - Have Llud join 87th Integrated, have 87th Integrated Patrol Suzaku Selffaw - Move to 87th Integrated Do you want me to give Aleksei money for a Medea in case he has to paradrop to West Arctic on Monday? Feyd! Can you do me a favour though and send 75 RP to Aleskei so that we can give him the chance to use 2 services tomorrow when he arrives in the pacific. You should buy marines for the Everest when you can. We don't want a Gwazine incident. Alright, well my original plan for today was for Aleskei to paradrop on jukons in the pacific today, however, he didn't get the RP needed so we need to figure out something else to do. I also wanted all of you guys to move to the West Arctic today so we could do a better patrol action, however it doesn't look like that will be the case. So basically we need all of those people in the pacific to move back to the west arctic today. I have an idea for today's inevitable battle: remember how you defeated the Recon Gaw's jamming capabilities by using signal flares? We could try that today as well, I could fire an M-Particle bomb which would jam all communication equipment and we could use flares to keep our troops under order. What do you guys think? It may not be an inevitable battle, not 100% certain that they will in fact do it today. They still have gaplant at Current Action: Upgrading 1, so the likely attack looks like it could come next monday. I might add though, that it could be a great idea. I think they wait till the Apsalas is ready which will be in two days. Feyd our job will be to keep that stupid thing from being effective. Well the Apsals will be orbital dropping so, it'll probably get one shot off before being raped by our fighters. Since he's yet to actually use the thing in a real assault it might not be as effective. Oh it is moving to earth orbit, if that is the case we can deal with it quite effectively with an anti orbital purchase next week. In that case I need some people to send me RP so I can afford it during the first day of purchasing of next week when the assault is likely to begin. Hey you guys, we could really use your help as the ground forces. The apsalus II is going to orbit to do an attack on us, therefore I know that three of you are one days movement away right now at 0DE and could TRY to move to earth orbit today. If you could please try to move there today, we could attack the apsalus while it is in earth orbit. Otaktai Lone Wolf, Marc Simmons, Rachel Arronax You all have one days worth of damage, and if you all attempted to move past the one earth orbit patrol that can only stop one of you. It won't even be able to engage you all too since you are repairing 1 this means that you risk no additional damage. Then you can get some easy experience while Chan goes to Luna II. A few issues to address. 1. At best, if we make it through, we'll have Marc Simmons (GM-E, VP77) + Rachel Arronax (GM Juggler, VP84) + Otaktai (GM Light Armor, VP45) in the fight. I don't like these odds considering we're fighting a VP79 Apsalus II. 2. If we send Simmons and Arronax out, we won't have NT roll checks against Chan's escape rolls, which does compromise our current attempt at penetrating Zeon board password. Jojo, tell me what your objective is. Do you want the Apsalus blown up or simply disabled to the point where it can't fight and thus do an orbital attack? I would just want it disabled enough so that it couldn't do an orbital attack or at least interrupted during an orbital attack. On the topic of needing the NTs there to change Chan's roll I would like to figure out exactly what and WHEN Chans roll would take place. It seems to me that if it takes place BEFORE our actions then you would be on the ship before making your movement action, while if he was doing it AFTER your actions then that would put him on Luna II and you don't need to be there to help keep him in prison there. Yeah, you're right on Chan; Also, he's injured 3, so he won't be able to attempt to escape for a few days. My opinion is if we're doing this, we might as well go all the way and drop a tiny bit of cash on sending a balloon on the Earth Orbit zeek patrol so Rachel and Marc Simmons can make it safely through, and attempt to kill the Apsalus. If I pack a bazooka and Latooni effectively uses his Juggler's bits, I think we can do this. But do know that this isn't a commitment by the EFSF; I'm just giving my two cents. I'm still waiting to inform Latooni and asking for his final word on this matter. Chan can't make escape rolls while injured. Furthermore, Apsalas II will be Repairing 1 Monday. In other words, I cannot attack it Monday. I have no idea if it will sit around that long, or if it'll re-enter without orbital drop attacking. If it re-enters with out orbital drop attacking, I call it a win for the EF. Their is also another hurdle in this plan Jojo. Lone-Wolf is semi active because of real life and stuff. So he is able to make rp transfers and proticipate in some other actions to help the team. So your really dealing with two pcs fighting in Earth's Orbit.
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Post by Zero on Jan 12, 2010 17:51:46 GMT -5
I actually feel like this information warrants being copied because it gives us some insight into the mind of the Federation Dog. =3. Long-range goals for EFSF+EFGF (Raw idea thread)Alright, normally we only plan 2-3 weeks in advance at most. But that leaves us 100% in defensive mode, and we never keep initiative. Furthermore, EFSF and EFGF are not wholly independent, and for long range goals it is possible to co-ordinate. Now, I've been so busy trying to pull the EFSF out of the position it's in I haven't given thought to what we should do overall; besides, this isn't just my game, or blackmage's, or jojo's. I want to know what you guys would like to accomplish in the OYW. It can range from personal vendettas, to RP reasons, to strategic superiority; but I want to know how you guys want to leave a mark on this game. We'll sort through ideas for impracticality and contradiction later; I just want you guys to write down what you would love to do. I would like to have Jarvis lead large, high-risk base attacks. Unless I redeem his view of himself, I want him to be in charge if one fails. I have a fun RP direction to take things in. I want to get a ship so I can make the NPC crew/pilots I've thought out. Oh, and I guess I want to take Side 3 etc. Preferbably from far away using a sniper rifle or cannon. And getting a better suit would be nice. One like the Guncannon MPT or the Sniper II.. I have 3 goals. One I can do but it will require me to work hard at it the other two depend on the circumstances. 1.Get a gundam or a experimental mobile suit like I did last time. This I think I can do I just need to rp my ass off and stay active. 2.Free up another npc fleet. It would be nice to free up another one is the situation in space permits. 3. Maintain a more members then Zeon space. The more members we have the more rp will be coming in and the more people we will have to kicks ass. I've been busting my ass trying to find people from back in the day in msgwar to try and get them to join. This is a work in progress. Hirsch has become somewhat cruel, realizing he must be just as evil to counter Zeon. My character has two primary objectives: 1. Rescue New York City (his hometown) from Zeon oppressors. 2. Destroy SS members. I also agree with Aurem - Aldo really needs to die. Group RPs would also be much appreciated. Edit: I think we need to start coming up with plans on how to deal with the Apsalus II. I played it last run and was easily able to fly to Earth Orbit, and drop on bases with few obstacles. It can destroy a base every week if it wanted to. If were the EFGF and EFSF commanders, I would coordinate ambushes on the mobile armor (Earth Orbit and Earth) in order to keep it in constant repair. 1.) buy a big tray and populate it with an adequate support force (an m.s. team as well as support) 2.)use said tray to wreak havoc on enemy plans. in other words be a thorn in their side to disrupt their strategy. 3.) Kill Kale, well his character 4.) Eliminate a squad of panzergrenaders Edit: I think we need to start coming up with plans on how to deal with the Apsalus II. I played it last run and was easily able to fly to Earth Orbit, and drop on bases with few obstacles. It can destroy a base every week if it wanted to. If were the EFGF and EFSF commanders, I would coordinate ambushes on the mobile armor (Earth Orbit and Earth) in order to keep it in constant repair. I'll cut in right now and help out by pointing out the best way to deal with that: Take back orbit. We either need more spaceports, or for Zeon to have less. Spaceports are really expensive to repair, so you don't even have to take the base - just make your objective of the strike the elimination of a spaceport. Of course, if you think you can take the base, then that'll be even better. But it'd cost 1000 side RP to repair a spaceport. Lat's right. The best way to deal with the Apsalas would be to intercept it with fighters or somehow gain contorl of Earth Orbit so it could not orbital drop as easily. Fortunately, the pilot does not seem to be very active so he may miss an action here or there that could help us. I would also like to add that I will be saving my RP for the next few weeks until I can afford a ship, most likely a Big Tray or Medea for future assaults. Although I am a test pilot, I would like to assume a larger leadership position, particularly with helping Jojo (sending out orders and e-mailing people with important matters) and spearheading base attacks with the Waterproof Gundam, which I hope to receive after the event. The Big Tray would not only help me develop an officer-type character for the ship that I've been exploring (and otherwise would not be able to play since we have too many officers), but also make a huge dent in any offensive operation. Certainly the Big Tray isn't necessary. However, it would definitely strike fear in the heart of Zeon, and that's exactly what my character is trying to do now. 1.) Crush the two most active (and largest) Zeon Spaceports on Earth. 2.) Limit Zeon Earth Forces to some shitty areas. 3.) Have Charles live for as long into the war as possible (preferably up to Solomon at the minimum.) ...Altoh...nevermind New goals 1.Capture Radune 2.Break Zeon Space ability to produce rp through their mines. rp goals 1.Develop my character furthur along then I did my last one updated goals: 1.) Buy a big tray (or a fleet of them) and stock it entirely with conventional war machines (fighter, tanks etc.) and maybe a lvl 5 sniper and a couple of good m.s. 2.) 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Post by Zero on Jan 13, 2010 16:40:24 GMT -5
More EFGF Chatter. So the Zeeks move to South America, is this just a feint or do they plan on hitting Rio? Either way I think the 87th and West Arctic PC's should move to Europe on Monday. That way, depending on what they chose to do that day, we can respond. If they hit Rio, fine, we hit Archangelisk. I don't know that the Zeeks have the strength to even take Rio, and even if they did their losses would set them back for awhile. If they move back to North America we can move back to the West Arctic. Oh, they aren't going for Rio. Not initially, at least. They're going for our resupply fleets. That being said, I still say we go hit Europe. Good point, forgot about that. Ugghh... This is far more serious now because those supply fleets are very valuable side RP wise not to mention they get RP for killing them. I think we have to make at least a show at threatening them, perhaps by moving the naval ships to the Atlantic. I doubt that will prevent them from hitting one but it might stop them from hitting both of them. |
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Post by Zero on Jan 14, 2010 2:56:56 GMT -5
Des works with the EFF?(01:26:43 PM) Jojo: You going to party like its 1995 in North AFrica now? (01:27:08 PM) Tylatz: Why would I do that? (03:10:48 PM) Jojo: because you are a 'terrorist' (03:10:51 PM) Jojo: (03:11:09 PM) ***Tylatz is not a terrorist. (03:11:37 PM) Tylatz: The AU is just taking out those who seek to pillage and rape Africa to fuel a war that doesn't concern it. (03:12:03 PM) Jojo: Well we could use someone like you (03:12:06 PM) Jojo: (03:12:13 PM) Tylatz: >> (03:12:29 PM) Tylatz: To do what? (03:14:20 PM) Jojo: I need the following scouted: (03:14:20 PM) Jojo: Alexandria (03:14:20 PM) Jojo: RF-2 (03:14:20 PM) Jojo: Kimberlite (03:14:20 PM) Jojo: Archangelisk (03:14:20 PM) Jojo: Lhasa (03:14:39 PM) Jojo: you already assaulted RF-2 so you could provide that to us now (03:14:53 PM) Jojo: and we could work together to remove it from the african landscape (03:15:17 PM) Tylatz: RF-2 will probably be gone before I could do anything to it. (03:15:32 PM) Jojo: Also the Kimberlite spaceport destruction would be VERY helpful still (03:16:28 PM) Tylatz: And what are you willing to pay for the scout reports? (03:17:51 PM) Jojo: Not a ton (03:18:33 PM) Tylatz: Well, I need some compensation and you need all the help you can get. (03:19:00 PM) Jojo: I think we can work together for the aid of both of us (03:19:33 PM) Jojo: would you like a regular paycheck? (03:19:40 PM) Jojo: or per job? (03:20:04 PM) Tylatz: Depends on the amounts and stipulations. (03:20:36 PM) Jojo: are you currently in North Africa (03:20:40 PM) Jojo: since I have no clue where you are? (03:21:12 PM) Tylatz: You'll know where I am soon enough. :3 (03:21:50 PM) Jojo: Well If I knew where you are (03:21:59 PM) Jojo: I could provide a quicker judgement of what I could offer you as a job (03:22:06 PM) Jojo: and provide some sort of RP payment (03:22:49 PM) Tylatz: I wont be divulging that information until after tonight, but Lhasa would be the easiest. (03:23:09 PM) Jojo: oh rly? (03:23:12 PM) Jojo: hurrah (03:25:09 PM) Tylatz: Too many people in Europe and I don't have to deal with patrols getting to Lhasa. (03:25:34 PM) Jojo: Well are you in East Asia? (03:25:51 PM) Tylatz: Not quite. (03:25:57 PM) Jojo: can you be? (03:26:16 PM) Tylatz: I could, tomorrow. (03:27:00 PM) Tylatz: Wanting to put that Big Tray to use? (03:29:10 PM) Tylatz: Monday would be the soonest that I could scout Lhasa. (10:05:09 AM) Tylatz: btw, for some reason ket moved me off the base so I can do that scout today or would you rather I infiltrate? (10:07:46 AM) Jojo: busy at work (10:07:47 AM) Jojo: gimme a sec (10:08:26 AM) Tylatz: k (10:51:35 AM) Jojo: Alright (10:51:59 AM) Jojo: you there? (10:52:53 AM) Tylatz: Yeah. (10:53:40 AM) Jojo: How would you like to assault Manila today? (10:53:52 AM) Jojo: Infiltration actions won't work (10:53:56 AM) Jojo: so you would have to assault (10:54:32 AM) Tylatz: Why wont infiltration work? (10:54:42 AM) Jojo: I asked Ketara yesterday (10:54:51 AM) Jojo: you have to basically infiltrate as a move action (10:54:59 AM) Jojo: then when the assault comes you attack (10:55:07 AM) Jojo: so it would take 2 days (10:55:16 AM) Tylatz: So y'all are doing the all out assault today? (10:55:24 AM) Jojo: yes, you will be with us (10:55:33 AM) Jojo: but a terrorist contact would be a nice touch (10:55:35 AM) Jojo: in the assault (10:55:38 AM) Tylatz: Sure I guess. (10:56:02 AM) Tylatz: Just send me the plan or whatever. (10:56:26 AM) Jojo: join #EF (12:15:21 PM) Jojo: are you double agenting it? (12:23:21 PM) Jojo: you there? (12:33:56 PM) Tylatz: No, I'm not. (12:34:02 PM) Tylatz: I'm just etching stuff out. (12:34:03 PM) Jojo: ok good (12:34:07 PM) Jojo: just like I said though (12:34:19 PM) Jojo: I can promise you LOTs of work (12:34:32 PM) Jojo: I know you are only working this time for a relationship change (12:34:47 PM) Jojo: but I will pay you a reward if you did a good job after this (12:35:09 PM) Jojo: you have skills we can use (12:35:10 PM) Jojo: (12:40:37 PM) Jojo: no more attacks on Federation targets now either right? (12:41:20 PM) Jojo: I support this. He can be on the payroll as long as he doesn't cross us. Considering his specialization, we should consider letting him purchase Marines at EFF RP costs, pilot and all included; he just sends the RP to some EFF person, they buy it, then trasnfer it to him. I mean, his guerillas (lol ketara) are great, but they're not as well equipped.
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Post by Zero on Jan 15, 2010 0:36:53 GMT -5
"They want the free VP of killing our supply fleets. We can't really STOP them, but we might be able to halt them after the first. "
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Post by Zero on Jan 16, 2010 17:15:18 GMT -5
Att. EFF: Anti-Mine OperationObjective 1 and 2 destroyed. Operation completed. Yep. Tylatz was working for the EFF.
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Post by Frenzy on Jan 16, 2010 20:03:28 GMT -5
Best way to counter that is find out how much they're paying him and offer him more.
Either that or find some friends, have them join as rogues and make his life a living hell.
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Post by Zero on Jan 16, 2010 20:54:04 GMT -5
EFSF overview and luna II logistics.Were in a pretty good spot against the zeeks despite it costing us some warships. We now have in our posession the most powerful warship class in oyw and a Zeon space officer because of Lat's off the wall plan. The zeeks are limited as to when they can buy ships and how much they can spend at one time. Chan hoards in the most rp amongst the zeeks. The rest dont pull in enough to buy a Musai in the amount of time that Chan does alone. Shortly after the Gwazine was captured the Zeeks took what rp they had and purchased mobile suits for their remaining warship the Lucifer's Fury. Our situation is very clear and simple and even a cave man could figure this out. We got the zeeks on the ropes and they really hurting from when we captured the Gwazine and Chan. We got these bastards right where we want them. The day is fast approaching where we will overwelm not only with our vast numbers, but with our superior firepower. Ok guys Lat is probably going to purchase stuff for the fleet real soon and I figured it might be a good ideal to hear what everyones opinions are as to what we should buy and what we should stay away from. We've had plenty of fights with the zeeks to know what will work against them and what wont. So lets hear some of those opinions in terms of logistics. Just a correction: Chan can still buy things for any of his possessions. Example- he bought those Rick Doms for the Tivvay. This means he could also buy ships at 401k much like Lat did at Texas. As for purchase ideas: Your Gwazine has enough hanger capacity for an entire fleet. This means you should just buy Salamis so you could have like 4 of them (inlcuding our PC one) surround the Gwazine to protect it. As we've seen, an unsupported Gwazine is quite vulnerable but a well supported one can be devastating. Because the Gwazine's hanger is so big you don't need to make these Salamis Kai's, they can either be standards or Revised. I'd also eventually buy a Columbus to stock with Saberfish since those are always useful and help to diversify your attacks not to mention they give Nader some NPC's to lead. Aside from that, GM's, GM's, and more GM's... I plan to get mostly Salamis, but if anyone has a nifty NPC captain they've always wanted to make, I will fucking get that captain a Revised. Feyd: I didn't mention chan's ability to still purchase stuff because I thought that was already known, but yea he can still buy stuff its just he is limited now since he can't transfer rp and I assume no one can transfer to him. Latooni:Sounds good to me. Just make sure we atleast have a Colombus for Nader and his saberfish hoard and some GMs to whip some ass with. Considering the firepower and numbers advantage we will have against the zeeks do you think we can afford to sit maybe another week to buy more additional forces? I'm having one of those feelings that the zeeks are going to cut us off at 2e or 3e and fight us to keep us from carryng out ball buster. I have no doubt in our ability to survive such an encounter I just want our firepower to survive so that after the fight we can kick ass as planned. We should buy a Magellan after we destroy the mines as a big "Hey, Zeon, FUCK YOU NEENER NEENER." No, wait, not worth the pricetag for that. Anyway, I don't really think there's much that I need to add, the situation is pretty cut and dry and the things we need to do are being done.
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Post by gaplant on Jan 17, 2010 5:17:04 GMT -5
Best way to counter that is find out how much they're paying him and offer him more. Either that or find some friends, have them join as rogues and make his life a living hell. The second part I had thought about a little bit today, we'll have to see how things play out. |
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