So...planning?

Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	So...planning? Feb 8, 2010 23:31:13 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Feb 8, 2010 23:31:13 GMT -5 I'm not really sure what we can plan here since we're the only two space officers, but we may as well get SOME kind of plan going.
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So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 0:47:13 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 9, 2010 0:47:13 GMT -5

Well, Zeon space has 5,462 RP (before the 200 RP we spend today). What this means is that we can buy a Gwazine and Chivvay II next week when we arrive in 401(K), total of 6,700 RP. We make about 2,500 RP a week.

The biggest factor is how much damage we took today and what the EFSF fleet in Side 5 did. If it stayed in Side 5, that's great. Most likely though, it moved along with the the EF PCs at +1DE into +2DE.

Which means, we're into a nasty fight tomorrow night. I need you Frenzy to go on Overwatch tomorrow while I move the fleet into Dren Fleet. We probably need either two missile services, or a missile sevice and a MS Support Service tomorrow.

At worst case, everyone who's repairing hops off towards +3DE while we fill the MS Slots with Zaku II HMTs. We can then use the MS to stock the Gwazine and Chivvay II later on. I hope I make it out of +2DE alive when I spawn.

At the very least, Dren Fleet will move to block Ohm Fleet.

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So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 16:18:38 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 9, 2010 16:18:38 GMT -5

Okay, so most of our predictions are true but the worst part is that the Chivvay II is Disabled.

Hopefully we can shuffle the two combat ships of the ZEF to Dren Fleet while leaving Dummy Balloons in their place. Then my Musai can join you guys while moving to +3DE.

Then next week we get a Gwazine and Chivvay II.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

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So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 16:48:35 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Feb 9, 2010 16:48:35 GMT -5

That went about as well as can be expected, and we got some promotions, which means more spending cash. Doubly so since we have some RP credits.

But yeah. We need to make sure what we have survives and then get them fixed up for taking on whatever gets sent our way, especially Damocles. Do you have a concrete plan for taking them on once we do butt heads with them?

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So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 17:20:21 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 9, 2010 17:20:21 GMT -5

We cannot fight as we are and part of our short term goals is to get back to 401K for repairs and more ships.

To note, Jim has been advocating that we need to prevent Damocles/Cygnus Fleet to destroy Dren Fleet. He believes we will then fall into a vicious cycle of always returning to mess with Ohm Fleet then having to face the EFSF with damaged units.

He's on his way to +3DE today to do stuff with Cid but he also wants to move into a Side or L4 to buy Musais.

I rather get a Gwazine (give it to Laredo so he'll put Panzergrenadiers on it) and get a Chivvay II.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
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So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 17:48:16 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Feb 9, 2010 17:48:16 GMT -5

Sooner or later we'll be able to tackle Ohm directly.

But once we get fixed up, we should focus on neutering the EFSF's PC fleets and then go about taking out the NPC fleets. But Jim does have a point. We just need to eliminate the threat by any means.

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So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 18:10:22 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 9, 2010 18:10:22 GMT -5

The main power of the EFSF fleet is, for the time being, our Gwazine. We got rid of their Pegasus II which is great. We can also be fairly confident that Latooni will carry on with his balloon fetish so that's a buttload of money the EFSF is wasting on easy targets (as seen by last Wednesday's event).

I'm curious about the chunk of Publics that they have. They pretty much brought 3 of those in exchange for a Salamis. There has to be some intention there since those are ship killers.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 19:19:18 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Feb 9, 2010 19:19:18 GMT -5 I don't want to bank on Latooni always relying on balloons, though. We could make a mistake if he wises up and only gets a few at a time or something.
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Chan ZMF Officer Rear Admiral Posts: 1,348	So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 19:30:58 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chan on Feb 9, 2010 19:30:58 GMT -5 The nice thing about Latooni and his balloons is that buys them in excess. It is very easy to look at a fleet and go, "yeah, he doesn't have the money for that."
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Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	So...planning? Feb 9, 2010 21:14:27 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Feb 9, 2010 21:14:27 GMT -5 All I'm saying is that we shouldn't count on him keeping with one tactic. If he's taking this game seriously, he might start using tactics more involved than "balloon spam", especially once money runs low.
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So...planning? Feb 10, 2010 21:04:12 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 10, 2010 21:04:12 GMT -5

Okay, so I respawned. YAY.

The good news: I kept my logistics specialization. I'm not sure why but I think because I won it in a Profile Contest instead of winning it as a commendation for RPing. In either case, I am grateful..

The bad news: According to Ket, I am only allowed to use the logistics specialization when attacking. We can somewhat blame Jojo for this because he was constantly having a Flight Support Service follow him around when he moved. Note, I'm said "attacking" and not "attacked".

We also have a large crapload of Resource Points. But the problem is, we can't do our normal thing of returning to 401(K) and returning to the frontline with reinforcements.

We need to hold out enough at +2DE to the point that the EFSF needs to return to a compound for repairs.

In the meanwhile, I want to start buying ships at 401(K) and send them over to +2DE. On my spreadsheet, we can buy a Papua (hahaha, don't we wish we had these already?), a Musai Final Type, and a Gwazine. This should balance our firepower against the EFSF somewhat.

The way I see it, everyone send me their RP then I can buy the Musai (while refitting it to a Final Type) and the Papua at 401(K). Then next Monday I can move them into L3 while everyone gives me their RP again, except for Laredo who will hold onto 84 RP.

Then on Tuesday, I'll buy a Gwazine, form it with the Musai Final Type and Papua into a new Fleet, and... give ownership of the Gwazine over to Laredo Veil.

He will then use his 84 RP to buy a Panzergrenadier for the Gwazine over the same of 3 days which is about how long it would take for the fleet to get to +2DE. Then on the following Monday, it arrives at +2DE.

I then buy 19x Zaku II HMT for the Gwazine, Laredo buys 6x Zaku II HMT for the Musai Final Type, and Frenzy buys 4x Zaku II HMT for the Papua.

So what we need to do is survive on minimal RP for one week >_>

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"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

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So...planning? Feb 10, 2010 22:59:52 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 10, 2010 22:59:52 GMT -5

After some thinking, we may have to exchange the Gwazine for more flexibility. Namely instead of a Musai, Papua, Jicco, and Gwazine let's have a Musai, Papua, Chivvay II, Zanzibar II, and a Jicco.

This gives us 6 combat ships and one repair ship (Tivvay, Chivvay II, Chivvay II, Zanzibar II, Musai, Musai, and Papua) vs. 1 fortress ship, 5 combat ships, and one transport (Gwazine, Salamis Revised, Salamis Kai, Salamis, Salamis, Salamis, and Columbus).

The key behind the Gwazine is that it must present its broadside before attacking. If we can keep our ships at the fore and aft of the Gwazine, we can force it to having to constantly turn itself around while we blast away the much weaker Salamis-class ships.

I think flexibility will have to be our focus. Getting a Gwazine again is now a luxury item.

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"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

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So...planning? Feb 10, 2010 23:00:33 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 10, 2010 23:00:33 GMT -5

Altecha Chan says:
taking a step back
depending on how much money we waste on Friday
or rather
need to recover from being attacked by Damocles and Cygnus
Zwei says:
Aye.
Altecha Chan says:
we may or may not have enough for a Gwazine while sufficiently reinforcing ourselves through week 13
I already scaled back the Musai Final to a Musai
giving us 509 RP for week 13
Zwei says:
Then let's run for it.
Altecha Chan says:
well, we can run for it on Monday with the ZMF Resupply Fleet
Zwei says:
I don't see why we need to wait for them. The longer we wait, the bigger the chances that we'll be screwed.
Altecha Chan says:
if we run for it now and the Cygnus Fleet catches either the Lucifer's Fury or the Azrael, both ships are done for.
it is too easy for Latooni to set Cygnus Fleet on "blockade"
Zwei says:
They can only catch one at a time, correct?
Altecha Chan says:
right
but we also need to protect Dren
3 Musais ain't going to help him against the Gwazine AND Cygnus
Zwei says:
Screw him. Our survival is more important.
Altecha Chan says:
well, how do you plan to get past Cygnus if it blockades? And what if Cygnus is in +3DE with us when we arrive there?
Zwei says:
There's always a way.
I'd like to once again reiterate my undying hatred of Latooni. If the fucking cheater wasn't a mod, I'd do so directly.
Altecha Chan says:
blind rage is one thing
being smart about it is another
Zwei says:
Well, if we wait, we're screwed. If we move, we might be screwed.
Altecha Chan says:
that's one way to put it, but it's more like eithe way we MIGHT be screwed.
Zwei says:
Right. I don't like even being in this position.
But I've learned to trust you with stuff like this.
Altecha Chan says:
ack, I still need independent assessment though
Zwei says:
Ask one of the other officers.
Altecha Chan says:
what other officers? The others are on Earth and that's one big drama zone
I've got Jim but he's not on as much as you are
Zwei says:
I realize that, but they still have good ideas.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

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So...planning? Feb 10, 2010 23:03:16 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 10, 2010 23:03:16 GMT -5

[22:13] <Chan> Hey Jim
[22:13] <Mother-Russia> hi
[22:14] <Chan> got a few minutes? I need an opinion of our current situation.
[22:14] <Mother-Russia> Shoot
[22:14] <Chan> We have a Damaged ship and a Severely Damaged ship at Dren Fleet
[22:15] <Mother-Russia> Right.
[22:15] <Chan> with near max hangar capacity
[22:15] <Mother-Russia> Right.
[22:15] <Chan> We also have enough RP to buy a Musai, Papua, Jicco, and Gwazine.
[22:15] <Mother-Russia> A Gwazine, againz?

[22:15] <Chan> that's one of the things I want to ask you
[22:15] <Chan> we can either get a Gwazine
[22:15] <Chan> or two Chivvay IIs
[22:15] <Chan> or four Musais
[22:16] <Chan> or two Zanzibar IIs
[22:16] <Mother-Russia> I suggest we have two decent sized autonomous fleets.
[22:16] <Mother-Russia> It gives us a lot of flexibility
[22:16] <Chan> or a Zanzibar II and Chivvay II
[22:16] <Chan> comprised of what kind of ships?
[22:16] <Mother-Russia> Need at least 3 capable warships each
[22:16] <Chan> right
[22:17] <Mother-Russia> 1 has to be a capital ship
[22:17] <Mother-Russia> Chivvay class or greater.
[22:17] <Chan> now how do you want us to take on a Gwazine with these ships?
[22:17] <Mother-Russia> Don't bother with the Gwazine.
[22:17] <Mother-Russia> But if we do have to fight it
[22:17] <Mother-Russia> We just outrun it >_>
[22:17] <Chan> if a Magellan Revised brings a Chivvay II to Disabled, what's preventing the Gwazine from torching our ships?
[22:18] <Chan> Outrunning it only does so much.
[22:18] <Mother-Russia> I'm just not fancying stonewalling the enemy force.
[22:19] <Chan> Fine by me but we are at the point where we can keep the EFSF people responding to us
[22:19] <Chan> now, Dren and our damaged selves
[22:19] <Chan> what would you do?
[22:19] <Mother-Russia> I think Cygnus will pull back in 2 days
[22:20] <Mother-Russia> They will probably fuck up the ZMF
[22:20] <Mother-Russia> That'll net them quite a bit of RP
[22:21] <Mother-Russia> If we weren't so trashed, I'd say it would be a fine opportunity for Texas
[22:25] <Chan> wait a minute
[22:25] <Chan> I respawned.
[22:26] <Chan> I still have logistics spec.
[22:26] <Mother-Russia> wat
[22:26] <Chan> yeah, from what I figured, it's a Profile contest prize, not a commendation.
[22:26] <Mother-Russia> Oh shit
[22:26] <Mother-Russia> So OP
[22:26] <Chan> yeah but Ket said
[22:26] <Chan> you can only use Dummy Balloons while attacking...
[22:27] <Chan> well as part of the logistics thing.
[22:27] <Mother-Russia> Yeah, that would be lame
[22:27] <Mother-Russia> If you could just keep spawning Dummy balloons

[22:27] <Mother-Russia> DERP :B
[22:27] <Chan> yeah
[22:27] <Chan> so can we use this so that my ship, the Lucifer's Fury, and the Azrael move into Texas Colony?
[22:27] <Chan> or rather Side 5?
[22:27] <Mother-Russia> Too risky
[22:27] <Mother-Russia> The Azrael is not combat ready
[22:28] <Mother-Russia> Lucifer's Fury is a stretch
[22:28] <Chan> so our choices are to either remain with Dren or make a break for +3DE.
[22:28] <Mother-Russia> They have I think, 2 days to blockade
[22:28] <Mother-Russia> Then they'll probably move to +1DE
[22:29] <Mother-Russia> Unless they want to try and net two birds with one stone at +2DE
[22:29] <Chan> what really makes you think they're going after the ZMF Resupply Fleet?
[22:29] <Mother-Russia> It's an easy target
[22:29] <Mother-Russia> RP
[22:29] <Mother-Russia> VP
[22:29] <Mother-Russia> It's the most gain, I'd say.
[22:29] <Chan> they may have the Gwazine, but I still have memories of the Nasr Fleet's attempt.
[22:29] <Mother-Russia> Denies us VP gain too
[22:30] <Mother-Russia> I'm sure Eld has cut down Ridden's badassary since.
[22:30] <Chan> not really, Ridden can still kill Lucy outright.
[22:30] <Chan> he said it himself.
[22:31] <Mother-Russia> Well, we shall see.
[22:31] <Mother-Russia> Start readying forces for the Zephr though
[22:31] <Chan> What are the odds of Cygnus Fleet Beta moving into +3DE?
[22:32] <Mother-Russia> Odds are....
[22:32] <Mother-Russia> I guess decent.
[22:32] <Chan> if we move there and Cygnus is there, the ships are dead.
[22:32] <Chan> we are pretty much can't move into +3DE until Ridden comes along.
[22:33] <Mother-Russia> I'd make a break for +3DE when Ridden is at +1DE
[22:33] <Mother-Russia> Or they could just blockade you.
[22:33] <Chan> the blockade things it the other scenario.
[22:33] <Chan> which leads to the question
[22:34] <Chan> how can we survive in +2DE with Dren Fleet for the next two days?
[22:35] <Mother-Russia> LE THINKING
[22:42] <Chan> I'm going to eat some dinner, but part of what I want to do is join Dren with my Musai so you guys can have a ship that uses optional armaments
[22:42] <Chan> and basically go on Overwatch for the next two days
[22:43] <Chan> while a fleet of Musai, Chivvay II, Zanzibar II, Jicco, and Papua makes it way up from 401K
[22:43] <Mother-Russia> Hrm
[22:43] <Mother-Russia> ETA?
[22:43] <Chan> Buy/Refit on Monday, moveout Tuesday, arrive in +3DE on Wednesday in time for Thursday.
[22:44] <Chan> MS... not until the following Monday.
[22:44] <Mother-Russia> Interesting
[22:44] <Mother-Russia> We'll see how my dealing with the rogues will do to spook them.
[22:51] <Chan> well, Cid is mad that I mistook his "put up a legitamate contract". he bounced it back so that none of hte other rogues can see it.
[22:51] <Chan> But I don't think that really matters.
[22:51] <Mother-Russia> Hah
[22:51] <Chan> Tylatz contacted me on what it would take to get a Xamel for him.
[22:51] <Mother-Russia> So clutch.
[22:51] <Chan> but anyway
[22:52] <Chan> I just realized that the Gwazine also has to present its broadsides towards a target
[22:52] <Chan> before it will fire on it.
[22:52] <Chan> what if we have our ships just keep themselves at the fore and aft portions of the Gwazine?
[22:52] <Chan> while nailing the smaller salamis?
[22:54] <Mother-Russia> Cross its T
[22:54] <Chan> right but at both ends.
[22:54] <Mother-Russia> Right.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

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So...planning? Feb 11, 2010 1:01:42 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Feb 11, 2010 1:01:42 GMT -5

[00:13] <Mother-Russia> All we can hope at this point is that Latooni invests far too much into the Gwazine.
[00:13] <Chan> Heh, it's human nature.
[00:14] <Chan> I did it myself.
[00:14] <Mother-Russia> It'll be interesting how he does things.
[00:14] <Chan> all I know is, he can only buy ~16 MS for the Gwazine
[00:15] <Chan> he wasted half of his Columbus capacity for Saberfish
[00:15] <Mother-Russia> Making anti ship passes?
[00:15] <Chan> as part of Dren Fleet, we have 6+5+5+14+8 =38 MS
[00:15] <Mother-Russia> It's an effective tactic.
[00:15] <Chan> missiles are so overrated especially with MS and AA coverage.
[00:15] <Mother-Russia> With enough Saberfish, though.
[00:15] <Chan> 7?
[00:16] <Chan> and if he uses up the Gwazine's slots, he only get ~20.
[00:16] <Mother-Russia> Oh, just 7?
[00:16] <Mother-Russia> I thought he'd have like, 30.
[00:16] <Mother-Russia> 7 isn't...
[00:16] <Mother-Russia> Yeah, nevermind.
[00:16] <Chan> no, he put GMs on the Salamis Kai
[00:16] <Chan> and his Columbus is where 3 EFSF PCs are
[00:17] <Mother-Russia> He'll probably put the Saberfish on an attack vector at a relatively undefended spot.
[00:17] <Mother-Russia> It's his best shot.
[00:17] <Chan> We have two detectors and a Zaku Minelayer =P
[00:17] <Mother-Russia> I'm getting extra hangar and AA armament upgrades for the CTC
[00:17] * Chan nods
[00:17] <Mother-Russia> Sorta wish my character was more badass.
[00:18] <Mother-Russia> I'd be flying false flag operations so damn much.
[00:18] <Chan> that was a sexy RP you did though
[00:18] <Mother-Russia> Hahaha.
[00:18] <Mother-Russia> Radune was on my case for an RP
[00:20] <Chan> yeah and now they're on mine
[00:20] <Mother-Russia> Can't complain too much though, well, myself.
[00:20] <Mother-Russia> I'm sure I'd be the same if I didn't have three classes cramming homework down my throat.
[00:20] <Chan> okay they have 7 slots on the Gwazine used up for PCs, Saberfish, MS, and Marines.
[00:21] <Mother-Russia> I like how he got 4x marines
[00:21] <Chan> that leaves 13x slots +2x MS sltos from the Salamis.
[00:21] <Chan> yeah.
[00:21] <Mother-Russia> Can't he tow?
[00:21] <Mother-Russia> Or something, or was that for MA's...
[00:21] <Chan> that's MA
[00:21] <Mother-Russia> FEDS DONT HAVE MA's, MOOT POINT, JAJAJA.
[00:21] <Chan> the +2 is for strapping a MS to the hull
[00:22] <Mother-Russia> Plus 10x point defense Balls
[00:22] <Chan> the good that's going to do him. The lvl2's in Blex fleet lasted five words.
[00:22] <Chan> Which reminds me
[00:22] <Mother-Russia> Aw yeah.
[00:23] <Mother-Russia> We need Oggos
[00:23] <Chan> The next NPC fleet on my list is Wyatt Fleet.
[00:23] <Chan> that is, if the EFSF Resupply Fleet isn't conveniently where we are.
[00:23] <Mother-Russia> Interesting.
[00:23] <Mother-Russia> I should get Cid to take over Texas
[00:23] <Mother-Russia> Kekekez
[00:23] <Mother-Russia> Too bad he wont...
[00:23] <Mother-Russia> You know what you need to do?
[00:24] <Mother-Russia> Build a fortress.
[00:24] <Chan> Texas would be great for taking, if we can manage it.
[00:24] <Mother-Russia> And move it into +2DE
[00:24] <Chan> wait a minute
[00:24] <Chan> Jim.
[00:24] <Mother-Russia> And have it blockade
[00:24] <Chan> we can make a base RIGHT NOW.
[00:24] <Mother-Russia> How genius.
[00:24] <Chan> Hrrrrgh
[00:25] <Chan> Build space fortification... that's 300 +300
[00:25] <Chan> but what if they attack me-?
[00:25] <Chan> wait
[00:25] <Chan> *I* don't need to build it.
[00:25] <Mother-Russia> You lose RP only if you get attacked in enemy.
[00:25] <Chan> dude, I'm a lone Musai with a EFSF fleet on my position.
[00:25] <Mother-Russia> Just clarifying if you were worried about losing RP
[00:25] <Chan> I'm almost guaranteed to be ganked.
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> Well, we did try to gank BM and the Saberfish
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> God
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> That's so cool
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> Build an asteroid mine
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> Then a fortress.
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> Mad lols. Would lol again.
[00:26] <Chan> no, you need to build a fortification.
[00:26] <Chan> asteroid mines are not fortifications
[00:26] <Mother-Russia> Oh, poop.
[00:27] <Chan> Laredo.
[00:27] <Chan> He has enough money.
[00:27] <Mother-Russia> Hrm
[00:27] <Mother-Russia> This is interestingly fresh.
[00:27] <Chan> Yes.
[00:27] <Chan> dude
[00:28] <Mother-Russia> I like these chat sessions.
[00:28] <Chan> indeed
[00:28] * Mother-Russia blows on a bubble pipe.
[00:28] * Chan chews on a lolipop stick
[00:28] <Mother-Russia> Myes, I concur.
[00:29] <Chan> okay, let's think this through.
[00:30] <Chan> Arcaille builds a base and is moved into it.
[00:30] <Mother-Russia> What is the opportunity cost, first of all
[00:30] <Mother-Russia> We will be down what and how many ships.
[00:30] <Chan> opportunity cost?
[00:31] <Chan> argh, 300+300+900 is what 401(K) cost me
[00:31] <Chan> that's either the Chivvay II or the Zanzibar II
[00:31] <Mother-Russia> Skip the Zanzibar.
[00:31] <Chan> then we need to buy defenses.
[00:31] <Mother-Russia> Well, actually
[00:31] <Mother-Russia> Zanzibar is a fast mofo
[00:31] <Mother-Russia> Can fortresses blockade?
[00:31] <Chan> no
[00:31] <Chan> you're thinking fleets.
[00:32] <Mother-Russia> Poop
[00:32] <Chan> but let me check anyway
[00:32] <Mother-Russia> I swear I saw some patrol modifier...
[00:32] <Mother-Russia> Dealing with COMPOUND
[00:32] <Mother-Russia> +8 Patrollers are a compound
[00:32] <Chan> bwah?
[00:32] <Mother-Russia> I'm just wondering what the hell that entails...
[00:32] <Mother-Russia> You know, just food for thought.
[00:33] <Mother-Russia> Granted I'm pretty sure if you see a giant hulking mass of guns and moonrocks, you'd think you could avoid it with ample warning. . .
[00:33] <Chan> yeah
[00:33] <Mother-Russia> But damn, if it works...
[00:34] <Mother-Russia> 50% chance you cockblock people
[00:34] <Chan> okay this is a fortification:
[00:34] <Chan> - Built-in accessories: Airfield, Hangar, Barracks, Cellblock, Radar/Communications Tower, HQ, Port if Coastal/Island/Naval
[00:34] <Chan> - Hangar capacity: 4x infantry, 8x mobile suits, 10x vehicle, 2x mobile armors
[00:34] <Chan> we need to fill that to the BRIM.
[00:34] <Mother-Russia> Right.
[00:34] <Mother-Russia> I wonder if Latooni has ever thought of this...
[00:35] <Chan> Laredo needs to pay 600 RP to build a space station base
[00:35] <Mother-Russia> Hell, I wouldn't have thought about this.
[00:35] <Chan> he'll have 285 RP to mess around with.
[00:35] <Mother-Russia> I don't think it's a problem
[00:35] <Mother-Russia> Just have people transfer money to him
[00:35] <Chan> but he can't use it until the day after
[00:35] <Mother-Russia> Day 2, even if the thing is attacked, he'll have placed his second round of units.
[00:36] <Mother-Russia> Using the money he was preemptively given.
[00:36] <Chan> so you're telling me to tell everyone to transfer ALL RP to him tomorrow?
[00:36] <Mother-Russia> No
[00:36] <Mother-Russia> Just enough so he can outfit it with a respectible contingent of defenses.
[00:37] <Mother-Russia> Then just Jaburo drop it when the time comes.
[00:37] <Chan> lol
[00:37] <Mother-Russia> I see absolutely no problem with this plan at all

[00:37] <Chan> dude... if this works....
[00:38] <Mother-Russia> They'll be too focused on ganking you anyways.
[00:38] <Mother-Russia> Unless they're smart and hit Dren.
[00:38] <Chan> he'll have to leave Dren to build this =P
[00:39] * Chan picks up his red-hotline phone "Get Laredo Veil in here. NOW."
[00:40] <Chan> hey,
[00:40] <Chan> WAR FACTORY
[00:40] <Mother-Russia> ?
[00:40] <Mother-Russia> Yeah, that's later though.
[00:40] <Mother-Russia> I have a boner for asteroid rocket clusters though
[00:41] <Mother-Russia> Just throwing that out there.
[00:41] <Chan> I'll keep that on the shopping list
[00:41] <Mother-Russia> It's a testament to man's need to increase the efficiency of everything. Including rocks.
[00:41] <Chan> heh
[00:42] <Mother-Russia> What kind of fixed defenses are you looking at?
[00:43] <Chan> hang on, I'm copying my table for fortifying Texas Colony
[00:43] <Mother-Russia> I'd say no more than 4x MPCs
[00:44] <Mother-Russia> Cost prohibitive at the moment.
[00:45] <Chan> hang on
[00:45] <Mother-Russia> Shower time.
[00:48] <Chan> okay with only 285 RP to space, he can only get 10x AA, 1x MPC, 2x SAM, and 2x Cannon

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