Orbital Strategy and Objectives

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Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 23, 2010 13:16:24 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Mar 23, 2010 13:16:24 GMT -5

The orbital situation is not as bad as the ground portion of Odessa, but we still have a tough job to do.

In terms of what I think what we should accomplish in space:

Objectives:

1) Protect as many HLVs as possible
2) Destroy as much of the BOLLOCKS fleet as possible

As for our pros and cons:

Advantages:
1) We can selectively place our ships where they matter the most
2) Our ships all have MS Hangars
3) We are grouped together while the EFSF is spread out in four groups
4) High level named NPCs

Disadvantages:
1) EFSF has more combat ships and more units in general
2) EFSF has more PCs
3) EFSF on average has better MS

The ship groups so far are:

Top left corner (Able Group):
VIII - Intimidator - lvl 5/5 Magellan Revised (Reed)
IX - Immolator - lvl 2 Magellan
X - Griffin - lvl 2 Magellan
XI - Stockholm II - lvl 2 Salamis Revised
XII - Glory - lvl 2 Salamis Kai
XIII - APS - 2 (Publics)

Top right corner (Baker Group):
XVII - STS-94 - Columbus B Type
XVIII - Nagahara - lvl 2 Salamis
XIX - Bellophorn - lvl 2 Salamis
XX - APS-3 (Publics)

Lower left corner (Charlie Group):
XIV - Vengeance - lvl 2 Salamis Kai
XV - STS-21 - lvl 1 Columbus (lvl 10 GM E Yazan Gable on board)
XVI - STS-38 - lvl 1 Columbus (30x Saberfish)

Bollocks Fleet (Dog Group):
I - Buster Ichi Go - lvl 4 Salamis Revised
II - Duke - lvl 3/3 Salamis Revised
III - Orc - lvl 2 Salamis Kai
IV - Ogre - lvl 2 Salamis Kai
V - Boss Borot - lvl 2 Columbus II (30x Saberfish)
VI - Sulafat - lvl 2 Columbus (4x lvl 3 GMs)
VII - APS-1 (Publics)
XXI - Harpy - Columbus B Type

Zeon combat ships:
I - Tirpitz - lvl 1 Zanzibar (5x Zaku II F, 1x lvl 8 Gyan (Ma Kube))
II - Penguin - lvl 4 Zanzibar II (1x lvl 18 Gelgoog (Johnny Ridden), 1x lvl 6 Zaku II R 2 (Gadem), 3x lvl 3 RickDom)
III - Kergeren - lvl 5/5 Zanzibar (Ghinius Sahalin)(6x Zaku II F)
IV - Shooting Star - lvl 4 Zanzibar II (1x lvl 4 Rick Dom, Dom Cannon (Rhett Paruta), and 4x Gattle)

[14:18] <Braddigan> The level of shit the EF has in space is making me sigh.
[14:19] <Chan> is not that bad. They are spread out thin.
[14:19] <Chan> It will take four turns before Baker and Charlie groups are within attack range
[14:19] <Chan> only Charlie has MS to launch out
[14:19] <Chan> Baker only has a Columbus B and two regular Salamis
[14:19] <Braddigan> It's totally that bad >.>
[14:19] <Chan> four turns out of ten for them to get into range
[14:20] <Chan> by that point, HLVs will be headed towards the lower right hand corner
[14:20] <Chan> we can concentrate our ships on Charile and Dog (Bollocks)
[14:21] <Chan> but I want to hold our two regular Musais in reserve until MS are launched from the Columbus and Salamis Kais in Charlie group
[14:21] <Chan> meanwhile, use the Zanzibars to cut Dog (Bollocks) down to size
[14:21] <Chan> the key to victory is to destroy all of the Columbus and Salamis Kai ships
[14:21] <Chan> thus making limiting the lifespan of every Federal MS to four turns
[14:21] <Chan> especially the players
[14:21] <Radune> Hmmm.
[14:22] <Chan> what they were probably trying to do
[14:22] <Chan> is put the NPCs in reserve to attack the ZEF
[14:22] <Chan> in case we dropped in around the Bollocks fleet from the flanks
[14:22] <Chan> but... we're not there
[14:22] <Chan> so now Able, Baker, and Charlie groups have to run into position to hit the HLV zones
[14:23] <Chan> but all ships move at the same speed
[14:23] <Chan> so as they are moving down, down/right, or rightward, the HLVs move at the same speed
[14:23] <Chan> well
[14:24] <Chan> Charlie group can move two hexes to the right

So based on the fact that the HLVs are arriving in L24, M23, M25, and N24 where the Zanzibars are right now, I want to move

I - Tirpritz to L26 while firing on IV - Ogre
III - Kergeren to K25 while firing on IV - Ogre
II - Penguin to M27 while firing on III - Orc
IV - Shooting Star to N28 while firing on III - Orc

This should sink the two Salamis Kais while moving the four ships out of the way of the next group of HLVs. We can then use decelerate to drop them to L23, K22, M21, and N22 respectively. We can then just seesaw the four ships back and forth for three turns as HLVs come up before heading east.

I want to deploy the XIII - Falmel to H28 and the 5x lvl 4 Zaku II F with it. That MS group is to target the V - Boss Borot. The other two Musais I want to hold back until Charlie group launch its MS/Saberfish.

I want the rest of the MS on the four Zanzibars to stay around the ships to protect them on turn 1.

Last Edit: Mar 23, 2010 14:13:04 GMT -5 by Chan

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Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 23, 2010 14:55:39 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Mar 23, 2010 14:55:39 GMT -5 We'll need someone to tie up Yazan and the Feddie PCs as well.
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Chan ZMF Officer Rear Admiral Posts: 1,348	Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 23, 2010 15:31:16 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chan on Mar 23, 2010 15:31:16 GMT -5 Yazan is in Charlie group and would take time to reach us. The Feddie PCs are in front of us and we have high level NPCs and Rhett Paruta to deal with them.
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Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 25, 2010 15:27:06 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Mar 25, 2010 15:27:06 GMT -5

[13:14] <Chan> so I'm looking at the Orbital map
[13:14] <Chan> they drop the two Salamis Revised back
[13:14] <Chan> while keeping the Salamis Kai at the front
[13:15] <Chan> they move their Columbus towards the upper right group
[13:15] <Chan> probably to link up
[13:15] <Chan> so it was a good thing we put the Falmel there
[13:15] <Chan> the group with Yazan on it is moving up and to the right
[13:16] <Chan> so what I want to do is slide the Zanzibars up and around the HLVs while destroying the Salamis Kais
[13:16] <Chan> the Falmel would keep working on those Columbuses
[13:16] <Radune> Hmm.
[13:16] <Chan> I'm going to hold back on the two reserve Musais until 1) the Falmel is in firing range of the upper right hand group and 2) MS launch from the lower left hand group
[13:18] <Chan> what do you guys think?
[13:18] <Radune> It sounds good to me.
[13:21] <Draco> Sounds good to me.
[13:22] <Draco> What will the MS do other than fight more MS?
[13:22] <Chan> true
[13:23] <Chan> what do you think about you and Ridden moving to attack the MS over Kegeren?
[13:23] <Draco> Awesome. Any indication as to what I've been armed with for the battle?
[13:24] <Chan> yes
[13:24] <Chan> shoulder shotgun cannons
[13:24] <Draco> Hmm. Guess if I couldn't bombard with my cannon (for whatever reason) I might as well take something good for killing GMs.
[13:24] <Chan> 1 - RHETT PARUTA - 4 FUEL LEFT
[13:24] <Chan> - Rhett Paruta, 137VP Dom Cannon - 90mm (161) + Grenade (1), Shoulder Shotgun (20), Missiles (12), Heat Tomahawk
[13:24] <Chan> - 1x 69VP2NT Rick Dom - 1x 53VP Rick Dom - 360mm (25), Heat Saber
[13:24] <Chan> - 4x 6VP Gattle - Missiles (40), Rockets (16)
[13:25] <Draco> Where'd we get a NT2 Rick Dom?
[13:26] <Draco> 'cause by all indications my Rick Dom spontaneously developed Newtype powers.
[13:26] <Chan> I have no idea
[13:28] <Draco> Which is, you know, cool if it's true. I'll take free Newtype powers for a pilot who's already that tough.
[13:29] <Chan> yeah
[13:29] <Draco> And a L3 Rick Dom joined my team too. Sweet.
[13:30] <Chan> well, I'm going to go by what Ket put down there
[13:30] <Chan> I need to eat
[13:30] <Chan> so, I'll be right back
[13:30] <Draco> Sure.

[15:06] <Chan> so Draco
[15:07] <Chan> you want to move with Ridden to attack K29 where Saberfish II, GM Command, and Guncannon MPT?
[15:10] <Draco> Sure.
[15:10] <Draco> Do I need to send an e-mail?
[15:10] <Chan> yeah I think you have to e-mail your own PC movement.
[15:11] <Draco> Darn. I was hoping I could get out of this without doing anything. ;p
[15:11] <Chan> =/
[15:11] <Chan> I need to figure out how to move the Zanzibars still
[15:11] <Draco> So am I still in Shooting Star right now or did I deploy somewhere?
[15:11] <Chan> you're still in the hex with the Shooting Star
[15:15] <Draco> Alright, so I'll move to K29 tomorrow.
* Retrieving #zeon modes...
[15:16] <Chan> I'll move Ridden as well. Are you taking your super Rick Dom?
[15:17] <Radune> Which one?
[15:17] <Radune> :3
[15:17] <Chan> the one on the Shooting Star
[15:17] <Draco> The L4 one that spawned Newtype powers.
[15:18] <Draco> If I have the option of splitting the squad, I might just take the Gattles.
[15:18] <Chan> there's a Saberfish II PC
[15:18] <Chan> and some regular Saberfish
[15:20] <Draco> :O Shooting Star is carrying 600 RP! Do I get to keep it if Shooting Star survives? :p
[15:21] <Chan> how the-?
[15:21] <Draco> It's listed on oywrpg4.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=zeongeneral&action=display&thread=3358
[15:22] <Chan> well I'll be damned
[15:22] <Radune> Hmm
[15:23] <Draco> I think ideally I would take the lower-VP Rick Dom with me so that the Newtype Rick Dom could lead the Gattles in either guarding the or striking the Feds from behind.
[15:24] <Draco> It's been fun, but I have to get ready to go to work and throw some food in a crock pot. Later, Chan.
[15:24] <Draco> If I can't split my team though, I'll just take the whole shi-bang into the thick of things.
[15:24] * Draco is now known as DracoAFK
[15:27] <Chan> see you later Draco
[16:17] * Chan is now known as Chan|AFK

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 28, 2010 21:57:06 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Mar 28, 2010 21:57:06 GMT -5

Here is what I proposed for Zeon Turn 4 moves:

Move + Attack

A - Gyan (Ma Kube), 2x Zaku II F continues to attack I - Buster Ni Go until the ship is destroyed
E - Zaku II R2 (Gadem), 3x Dom moves three hexes to the right to "K25" where it is meeting Rhett Paruta and Johnny Ridden

F - Gelgoog (Johnny Ridden) moves with Rhett Paruta south three hexes to "K25". He will be meeting Gadem there.

G- 3x Zaku II F move three hexes down to "J28" and attack II - Duke to destroy it
H- 2x Zakku II F move two hexes down to "J28" and attack II - Duke to destroy it

V - OSS-1 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to N40
VI - OSS-2 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to N38
VII - OSS-3 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to M39
VIII - OSS-4 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to O39

IX - OSS-5 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to L34
X - OSS-6 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to M33
XI - OSS-7 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to M35
XII - OSS-8 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to N34

I - Tirpritz accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to N22 while firing on I - Buster Ni Go to destroy it
II - Penguin accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to M31 while firing on II - Duke to destroy it
IV - Shooting Star holds position at N28 while firing on XIV - Vengeance to destroy it

Deploy

Deploy XIV - Arimel at N26
Deploy XV - Dejmel with J- 4x Zaku II Fs at L36

Deploy I- 4x Zaku II Fs on IV - Shooting Star at N28 to protect the ship

Basically the safest route for the HLVs is to move to the lower right hand corner. We will have to deploy the Musais to keep the Feds from pincer attacking through.

The Shooting Star is standing by to pick up Rhett Paruta, Ridden, and Gadem. I'm not so sure about Ma Kube yet. He'll probably get a Musai.

We do have a RX-78-1 in our midst.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 31, 2010 13:39:16 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Mar 31, 2010 13:39:16 GMT -5

Move + Attack

A - Gyan (Ma Kube), 2x Zaku II F moves down one hex and two hexes to the right "O27" to refuel/resupply on the XIV-Arimel
E - Zaku II R2 (Gadem), 3x Dom moves to "N28" with Rhett Paruta and Johnny Ridden to refuel/resupply on the Shooting Star
F - Gelgoog (Johnny Ridden) moves with Rhett Paruta south three hexes to "N28" to refuel/resupply on the Shooting Star

J - 4x Zaku II Fs moves towards 6 - Issa Kobayashi + 1x GM to attack him and try to prevent/delay him from destroying more HLVs

V - OSS-1 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to O45
VI - OSS-2 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to O43
VIII - OSS-4 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to P44

IX - OSS-5 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to M39
X - OSS-6 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to N38
XI - OSS-7 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to N40
XII - OSS-8 accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to O39

I - Tirpritz decelerates down 1 hex and six hexes to the left to "O9" while firing on I - Buster Ni Go to destroy it
II - Penguin decelerates down 1 hex and four hexes to the left to "M7" while firing on IV - Ogre to destroy it
IV - Shooting Star holds position at N28 while firing on XIV - Vengeance to destroy it
XIV - Arimel accelerates down 1 hex to "O27" while firing on XIV-Vengeance to destroy it
XV - Dejmel accelerates down 1 hex and three hexes to the right to "M41" while firing on XX - APS-3 to destroy the Publics

Okay, here are my Round 5 moves. Our hard hitters (Rhett Paruta, Johnny Ridden, Ma Kube, and Gadem) are going to move to ships to refuel/resupply. Penguin and Tirpitz are decelerating, hopefully putting them out of range. Penguin is disabled so who knows what happens when it drops off the map. Tirpitz may survive and in three turns reappear off the right side. Dejmel is moving to block the Salamis and Publics from the upper right. I sent 4x Zakku II Fs to distract the RX-78-1.

Edit: Made changes as pointed out by Draco.

Last Edit: Mar 31, 2010 14:08:15 GMT -5 by Chan

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

Draco Rogue Anaheim Electronics Employee Anaheim Hitman Posts: 1,240	Orbital Strategy and Objectives Mar 31, 2010 14:06:45 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Draco on Mar 31, 2010 14:06:45 GMT -5 Mar 31, 2010 13:39:16 GMT -5 Chan said: II - Penguin decelerates down 1 hex and four hexes to the right to "M7" while firing on IV - Ogre to destroy it It still says "right."

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Orbital Strategy and Objectives Apr 2, 2010 0:09:36 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Apr 2, 2010 0:09:36 GMT -5

Move + Attack

A - Gyan (Ma Kube), 2x Zaku II F stays on the XIV-Arimel to refuel and resupply
F - Gelgoog (Johnny Ridden) moves with Rhett Paruta toward the XIV-Arimel to refuel and resupply

I - 4x Zaku II Fs move towards the XIV-Arimel to protect it from attack
J - 4x Zaku II Fs continue to attack the XIV-Vengeance with the intention of destroying it

VI - OSS-2 decelerates down 1 hex and six hexes to the left to P32
VIII - OSS-4 decelerates six hexes to the left to P34

X - OSS-6 repositions down 2 hexes and four hexes to the left to N38

I - Tirpritz decelerates down 1 hex and two hexes to the left to "P4"
XIV - Arimel repositions down 2 hexes to "Q25" while firing on XIV-Vengeance to destroy it
XV - Dejmel decelerates two hexes to the left to "M37" while firing on XIV-Vengeance to destroy it and to block the HLVs against fire from the Magellans

Deploy

B - 3x Zaku II F to attack the XIV-Vengeance currently at "Q33" to destroy it

The goal here is to destroy the XIV-Vengeance so that the HLVs can decelerate into the clear at the lower center part of the map. This is my last gamble as I hope the Salamis keep moving to the right and the Dejmel moves into position to block the Magellan shots from hitting X - OSS-6.

The Arimel, Dejmel, B-Zaku II Fs and J-Zaku II Fs will continue to try to destroy the XIV-Vengeance.

If all else fails, I hope the Arimel survives so that it withdraws with Ma Kube, Johnny Ridden, and Rhett Paruta. I'm not sure what's going to happen to the Tirpitz.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Orbital Strategy and Objectives Apr 6, 2010 2:56:18 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Apr 6, 2010 2:56:18 GMT -5

Move + Attack

A - Gyan (Ma Kube), 2x Zaku II F stays with the XIV-Arimel to defend it and to shoot down any rockets or missiles that heads towards it.
F - Gelgoog (Johnny Ridden) with Rhett Paruta stays on the XIV-Arimel to refuel and resupply

B - 3x Zaku II F to move to "O31" with the mission to shoot down any rockets or missiles that passes through their location
I - 4x Zaku II Fs move to "O29" with the mission to shoot down any rockets or missiles that passes through their location
J - 4x Zaku II Fs continue to attack the XIV-Vengeance with the intention of destroying it. Their primary goal is to destroy the rocket and missile launchers on the Vengeance first.

VI - OSS-2 repositions down 2 hexes and 1 hex to the left to "R26"
VIII - OSS-4 repositions down 2 hexes and 1 hex to the left to "S27"

XIV - Arimel accelerates 2 hexes to the right and one hex up to "P32" while firing on XIV-Vengeance to destroy it with both rockets, missiles, and MPCs
XV - Dejmel repositions down 2 hexes and 3 hexes to the left to "O29" while firing on XIV-Vengeance to destroy it with both rockets, missiles, and MPCs while blocking the HLVs against rocket fire from the Magellans

Plan

Finish eliminating the Vengeance while shooting down any rockets or missiles that head towards the HLVs.

This is my Round 7 proposed moves. There's nothing more to do than shoot down rockets and hope the two HLVs can last until Round 9.

Edit: Gave Ma Kube rocket shooting duty.

Last Edit: Apr 6, 2010 3:06:12 GMT -5 by Chan

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

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Post by Chan on Mar 23, 2010 15:31:16 GMT -5

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Post by Chan on Mar 28, 2010 21:57:06 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Mar 31, 2010 13:39:16 GMT -5

Post by Draco on Mar 31, 2010 14:06:45 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Apr 2, 2010 0:09:36 GMT -5

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