ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 9, 2009 19:30:20 GMT -5

Post by gaplant on Dec 9, 2009 19:30:20 GMT -5

Tactical Insursion "B.O.O.B." on these boards, Operation "Storm" if you wish to refer to it in character, please.

Basically this is going to be a one-time assault on Belfast that is tentatively scheduled for next Tuesday or Wednesday (Week 7 in-game) to capture the last EF-held territory in Europe. The actual date, cost, and personnel are only estimated, and are subject to change based on these variables.

Here is what we are looking at (based on my analysis):

Enemy Forces

Stationed Defenses Breakdown

Total Mobile Suits - 3x lvl3 GMPGT (Hangar), 6x lvl2 GM G (Hangar), 3x lvl2 Guntank MPT (A) (Hangar).
Total Ground Support – 9x lvl2 Marines (Hangar), 1x lvl3 Marines (Hangar), 1x Marines (Bhatan), 12x Fanfan (Hangar), 3x Bloodhound (Hangar), 24x lvl2 Type 61 (Hangar), 4x Type 74 (Hangar).
Total Flight Support – 10x lvl2 Tin Cod (Hangar), 10x lvl2 Fly Manta (Hangar), 4x Depp Rogg (Hangar), 4x Dish (Hangar), 10x lvl2 Tin Cod (Alp), 8x lvl2 Fly Manta (Alp), 3x lvl2 Don Escargot (Alp), 5x Depp Rogg (Alp), 1x lvl2 Dish (Glen), 1x lvl2 Don Escargot (Glen).
Total Ship Support – Bhatan (lvl6/5 Big Tray), Alp (lvl3 Himalaya), Glen (lvl2 Hillock), Donatello (lvl3 Medea), Leopold (Medea B Type).

Defense Summary

Base Defenses - 15x AA (anti-fighter machinegun), 8x SAM (anti-fighter missile launcher), 3x Torpedo (anti-sub torpedo launcher), 6x Cannon (ground to ground cannon turret), 6x MPC (anti-mobile suit mega particle cannon), 2x Howitzer (A) (anti-siege artillery turret).
Mobile Suits - 3x GMPGT (ground combat mobile suit), 6x GM G (ground combat mobile suit), 3x Guntank (ground artillery mobile suit).
Ground Support – 11x Marines (ground infantry), 12x Fanfan (anti-infantry ground unit), 3x Bloodhound (anti-infantry ground unit), 24x Type 61 (ground battle tank), 4x Type 74 (ground detector unit).
Flight Support – 20x Tin Cod (aerial combat fighter), 18x Fly Manta (ground suppression bomber / fighter), 9x Depp Rogg (heavy air / ground bomber), 4x Don Escargot (multipurpose / ASW fighter), 5x Dish (aerial detector unit).
Ship Support – 1x Big Tray (land battleship / hovercraft), 1x Himalaya (naval carrier), 1x Hillock (naval battleship), 1x Medea (aerial carrier), 1x Medea B Type (aerial repair vessel)

By the Numbers

Mobile Suits – 12x ground mobile suits.
Ground Support – 26x infantry / infantry+ units, 28x tank / tank+ units.
Flight Support – 56x aircraft / aircraft+ units.
Ship Support – 1x land vessel, 2x naval vessel, 2x aerial vessel.

Here is what we would like to have on our side (courtesy of Kale, with minor edits by me in light of recent events):

Allied Forces

Dobday "Poseidon" (L4)
- Infantry (4): [Ritter Team: L5 Panzergrenadiers, L4 Panzergrenadiers x 1], 2 x Marines
- Vehicles (12): 12 x L2 Magella
- MS (8) + MA (1): [Aldo Team: Dom S, L6 Dom x 2], [Persepone Team: Zaku II Manipulator, L6 Gouf], [Duncan Team: Gouf, L5 Zaku II K, L4 Rhinocerous], [Markos Team: Gouf]

Jukon II "Some silly name that Chris gave me" (L3)
- Infantry (1): L3 Panzergrenadiers
- Aircraft (1): L3 Gunship Heli
- MS (4):3x L3 Gogg, [Xavier Team: Z'Gok]

Gaw "Dragon" (L4)
- Infantry (2): L3 Marines, Marines
- Vehicles (6): 2 x L2 Magella, 2 x L4 Magella, 2 x Magella
- Aircraft (8): L4 Luggun, 3 x Dopp, 4 x L3 Dopp
- MS (6): L3 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II K, [Ando Team: Zaku II S], [Ferusha Team: Zaku II F, L3 Zaku II F]

Gaw "Stilva" (L4)
- Infantry (2): L2 Marines x 2
- Vehicles (6): L2 Magella x 4, Magella x 2
- Aircraft (8): L3 Dopp x 5, Dopp x 2, Luggun x 1
- MS (6): L2 Zaku II K x 2, [Marko Team: Dowadge, L4 Dom x 1, L4 Zaku II J], [Noelle Team: Dom]

Gaw Recon "Excelsior" (L4)
- Infantry (1): Marines
- Aircraft (8): 7 x Dopp, L2 Dopp

Samson "Beetle"
- Infantry (1): Marines

Fleet Support
- Aircraft (6):
- MS (3): [Ota Team: Gouf, L3 Gouf x 2]

Other
- [Till Team: Zaku II K, L3 Luggun, L3 Zaku II J]
- [Rhett Team: Zaku II K+Dodai, L4 Gouf+Dodai, L3 Zaku II G+Dodai]

2 x Flight Support
- 10 x Dopp

Ships: Dobday (L4), Jukon II (L4), Gaw (L4), Gaw (L4), Gaw Recon (L4), Samson (L1)
--------Total: 6

MS: Dom S (PC), Dom (L6), Dom (L6), Zaku II Manipulator Type (PC), Gouf (L6), Gouf (PC), Zaku II K (L5), Rhinocerous (L4), Gouf (PC), Gogg (L4), Gogg (L4), Gogg (L3), Gogg (L3), Zaku II K (L3), Zaku II K (L4), Zaku II S (PC), Zaku II K (PC), Zaku II J (L3), Dowadge (PC), Dom (L4), Zaku II J (L4), Dom (PC), Gouf (PC), Gouf (L3), Gouf (L3), Zaku II K+Dodai (PC), Gouf+Dodai (L4), Zaku II G+DOdai (L3), Zaku II F (PC), Zaku II F (L3), Z'Gok (PC)
--------Total: 31

Aircraft: [Gaw: L4 Luggun, 3 x Dopp, 4 x L3 Dopp], [Gaw: 5 x L3 Dopp, 2 x Dopp, 1 x Luggun], [Gaw Recon: 7 x Dopp, L2 Dopp], [Till Team: L3 Luggun], [Flight Support: 10 x Dopp]
--------Total: 32

Infantry: L5 Panzergrenadiers, L5 Panzergrenadiers, 2 x L2 Marines, L2 Marines, Marines, L3 Marines, Marines, L2 Marines x 2, Marines
--------Total: 11

Vehicles: 12 x L2 Magella, 2 x L2 Magella, 2 x L4 Magella, 2 x Magella, 4 x L2 Magella, 2 x Magella
--------Total: 24

Purchases Required

--------RP Potential: 4999 RP

Dodbay (1000), L3 Captain (200), Marines x 2 (20), Magella x 12 (240) = 1460

Jukon II (950), L3 Panzergrenadier (125), L3 Gogg x 3 (900) = 1975

(Gaw Recon) - Dopp x 2 (40), Marines (10) = 50

Samson (250), Marines (10) = 260

2 x Flight Support (200 RP) = 200

--------Total Spent: 3425 RP

RP potential includes everyone's current RP as of this moment, added to their salary that they will be getting on Monday, by the way.

As you can see, if everything on this list was accomplished (as far as purchases and personnel), the following is evident:

Mobile Suits - we have roughly double their mobile suits.
Tanks - We are roughly equal on tanks.
Aircraft - They have roughly double our aircraft.
Ships - We have more (and better trained) ships in general.

Therefore, the strategy would look something like this:

Dobday forces and fleet support approach from southern end of city, Gaws drop troops on northern end of city. Gaw Recon Type masks approach, Dopp aircraft attempt to escort Gaws to drop zones.
Mobile suits and tanks advance on respective north and south installations using guerrilla warfare tactics. Artillery units are to open fire on Howitzers, Targeting Facility (using Luggun and Gaw Recon data) as a priority, and change firing positions often. Other mobile suits are to serve as point defense for the artillery and tanks.
Gaws are to serve as aerial escort to Gaw Recon Type and ground suppression, using bombs and MPC's aggressively. Dopps are to defend Gaw Recon as a priority, and hunt down Don Escargots.
Jukon forces are to approach. Z'gok is to clear a path through underwater minefield with Freeze Yard, and Goggs are to amphibiously assault southern facilities. Panzergrenadiers and Gunship Heli are to capture or destroy Hillock battleship, and Jukon is to assault Himalaya aircraft carrier and surface for artillery bombardment on base (using Gaw Recon and Luggun data).

So I think that's about it. Basically, just like last time, we would like you guys to post ideas or suggestions about this plan on this thread, as well as any concerns about it and also IF you plan to participate.

It's important that we get the dialogue on this going rather fast, but as always if you guys wouldn't mind moving to either Malta or Europe, and send me ( or Kale or Zero or Chris) any spare RP you have, that would help a lot.

Last Edit: Dec 9, 2009 19:33:54 GMT -5 by gaplant

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 9, 2009 23:02:34 GMT -5

Post by Kale on Dec 9, 2009 23:02:34 GMT -5

Remember, we won't need to purchase a captain for the Jukon II, as Marina will assume command of the vessel. She's also boost the stats of all non-SS members aboard, making the Goggs all that more effective.

Last Edit: Dec 9, 2009 23:02:52 GMT -5 by Kale

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 0:18:18 GMT -5

Post by on Dec 10, 2009 0:18:18 GMT -5

Woo! I am totally for the purchase of a Samson. Makes me smile. I'm so proud of you Gaplant. I was just thinking about making a thread about the potential for constant combat with a Samson or two in the fleet. Imagine the fun of sending Gaws out to strike targets then having them rejoin and get all fixed up by trucks! They are so damn cheap at the moment too! ...Gap. I love you. Can Ritter drive the truck later?

PS: I should be at the event, but I might try to hunt down a toy first.

Zero New Member Posts: 10	ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 0:42:59 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 0:42:59 GMT -5 As much as I hate to be a barer of bad-ish news. But with the new Broadcast, should we put Belfast off? It seems White Base event is going to happen Week 7.

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 0:49:30 GMT -5

Post by Kale on Dec 10, 2009 0:49:30 GMT -5

Definitely would help to have ya there. We're hoping your magic Intimidation skill will help boost a number of our MS team members ^_^.

Question: As urgent as I think Belfast is, should we try to destroy White Base next week instead? I don't know if we have the manpower to split forces between the two, and getting rid of Amuro and company (and potentially capturing the Gundam and White Base) might be as solid a contribution to our war effort as taking Europe. I'm not pressing for either, but wanted to lay the option out.

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Kale EFF Officer Sublieutenant Posts: 620	ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 0:50:17 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Kale on Dec 10, 2009 0:50:17 GMT -5 Heh. Looks like Zero got to it before me. If we held off on Belfast, we'd definitely have more resources a week later. Plus a whole lot more promotions...
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deadguydrew Rogue Posts: 402	ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 0:53:51 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by deadguydrew on Dec 10, 2009 0:53:51 GMT -5 As I think I'm going to participate in the Seatle event (if given the opportunity), I'm down for either option. I'm just looking forward to testing my new toy.
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Draco Rogue Anaheim Electronics Employee Anaheim Hitman Posts: 1,240	ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 1:13:40 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Draco on Dec 10, 2009 1:13:40 GMT -5 Yeah, sorry, going to Seattle. Might strafe New Amsterdam on my way if it's still there.

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 1:22:35 GMT -5

Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 1:22:35 GMT -5

I think White Base event is more important. Belfast is important, don't get me wrong, but with the promotions we'll get from White Base we'll get more resources which can be used ultimately at Belfast later.

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 1:53:27 GMT -5

Post by Kale on Dec 10, 2009 1:53:27 GMT -5

Drawing from the Operation Storm contingency plan I proposed on the officers’ forum, what if we tabled Belfast for a week, and divided our people into two offensives: White Base and New Delhi?

Most could head to California, and worry about jumping onto White Base.

Seven of us could move to Central Asia by Monday, along with the 9th Combined Operation (Gaw) Fleet. If we pooled funds, we could get another Gaw, and paradrop into New Delhi by next Tuesday. The remaining RP would be given to Ando, so he can purchase ships and defenses for Malta (leaving open the possibility of assaulting Belfast the following week).

New Delhi is significantly more vulnerable than Belfast. It would also be a kick in the nuts to the Federation, who wasted so many resources and so much time at Manila. If East Asia were to go from Contested to Controlled in a single assault, we’d be flying pretty.

The strategy would require Ritter Novosad, Duncan Keystone, Xavier Brennan, Aldo P. Armistad, Ota Naomi, Ernest Till, and Marko Dresner. Everyone else would be free to contend with White Base, or make independent movements.

EDIT: I wrote this strategy assuming we could get the Africa Korps to assist. Since it looks like Zero is hoping to head to Seattle, we’d need two or three more PC squads to fill in, or to purchase additional MS.

When all is said and done, we'd have East Asia, ample defenses at Malta, hopefully have downed White Base (or gotten a lot of promotions in the process), and with a little repairing, still be in a position to hit Belfast some time in Week 8 or early Week 9.

Here’s an assessment of the Federation’s strength at New Delhi:

Ships: L5/5 Big Tray, L3 Medea, Medea B Type
----------Total: 3 ships; 2 combat ships

Infantry: 10 x L2 Marines, 2 x L3 Marines, 4 x L3 Guerillas
----------Total: 16 Infantry

Vehicles: 30 x L2 Type 61, 2 x Type 74, 4 x Fanfan
----------Total: 36 Vehicles

Aircraft: 20 x L2 Tin Cod, 8 x L2 Fly Manta, 8 x Depp Rog, 2 x Dish
----------Total: 38 Aircraft

Mobile Suits: 4 x L3 GMPGT, 4 x L2 GM G, 3 x L2 Guntank MPT
----------Total: 11 MS

Here is what we could potentially field by next Tuesday (^ indicating forces that could be bumped up by Marina and Ritter's presence on the vessel):

Gaw (Dragon) – L4^ Gaw (w/ Marina commandeering)
Infantry (2): L1^ Marines, L3^ Marines
Vehicles (6): L1^ Magella x 2, L2^ Magella x 2, L3^ Magella x 2
Aircraft (8): L4^ Luggun, L1^ Dopp x 3, L3^ Dopp x 4
MS (6) + MA (1): L3^ Zaku II K, L4^ Zaku II K, [Duncan Team: PC^ Gouf, L4^ Zaku II K, L3^ Rhinocerous], [Xavier Team: PC^ Z’Gok]

Gaw (Stilva) – L4 Gaw
Infantry (2): L1 Marines x 2
Vehicles (6): Magella x 2, L2 Magella x 4
Aircraft (8): Luggun, Dopp x 2, L3 Dopp x 5
MS (6): [Ota Team: PC Gouf, L3 Gouf x 2], [Ernest Team: PC Zaku II K, L3 Zaku II J, L2 Zaku II K]

Gaw Recon (Excelsior) – L4 Gaw
Infantry (1): Marines
Aircraft (8): Dopp x 5, L2 Dopp

Gaw (Morrigan II) – L3^ Gaw
Infantry (2): [Ritter Team: L5 Panzergrenadiers, L4 Panzergrenadiers]
Vehicles (6): L1^ Magella x 6
Aircraft (8): L1^ Dopp x 8
MS (6): [Aldo Team: PC^ Dom S, L5^ Dom x 2], [Marko Team: PC^ Dowadge, L4^ Dom, L4^ Zaku II J]

Purchases required:

(for Excelsior), Marines, Dopp x 2 @ 50 RP

Gaw, L3 Captain, Magella x 6, Dopp x 8 @ 1730 RP

Flight Support x 2 @ 100 RP

Total = 1880 RP

Conclusion:

With a minimal amount of RP and PC commitment, we could take New Delhi handily – and leave plenty of RP open to defend Malta, and more than enough PC squads open to take on White Base. We would lack in Infantry and Vehicle support by half. Making up for this, we would own the skies with more and better skilled aircraft. Their lone ship is a Big Tray, which will be extremely vulnerable to Excelsior jamming and MPC fire from above. We’d also have the advantage in terms of MS numbers, and a big lead in skill levels.

Considering New Delhi is an urban fortress, this gives us a distinct advantage: we’ll have eyes in the sky, capable of directing street-to-street combat, while the Excelsior can jam their communications and make it difficult for the Federation to coordinate an effective counter-attack, since their troops will lack line of sight communication to make up for the lack of radio.

Last Edit: Dec 10, 2009 2:02:24 GMT -5 by Kale

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 2:00:04 GMT -5

Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 2:00:04 GMT -5

I do hope to take place in the White Base operation, because I think the promotions would be helpful in giving us additional RP. You've got to figure, from the Pacific Ocean the Feddies could be looking to head to North America as well in order to help the White Base, which means they might have the same deal (I.E, Promotions) and if a majority of them get promoted while a majority of us doesn't, we'll be at an RP disadvantage again.

With all of that in mind, if it is necessary I'll take part in the New Delhi assault.

Edit:

In regards to the Delhi assault, I'm pretty confident it is doable and doing it would create Patrols in East Asia so whether the Feddies own Manilla or not, we'd own East Asia. Even if we just outright DESTROY New Delhi, that'd still just leave our Zeon fortress in East Asia which puts the region in our control.

Infact, I think destroying New Delhi outright would be a favorable course rather then trying to capture it, because we wouldn't have the money to funnel into defending Delhi, Malta, and Belfast at the same time.

Last Edit: Dec 10, 2009 2:02:53 GMT -5 by Zero

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 2:03:31 GMT -5

Post by Kale on Dec 10, 2009 2:03:31 GMT -5

If we launched an operation that captured East Asia, I'm pretty sure there would be promotions in the mix as well.

EDIT: I think you have a very good point about New Delhi. Carpet bombing it into oblivion seems preferable, rather than trying to hold it while defending Malta and preparing for Belfast. Turning the Gaw Fleet right around, and sending it to Malta, would mean all the more firepower for Belfast.

Last Edit: Dec 10, 2009 2:08:57 GMT -5 by Kale

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 2:23:02 GMT -5

Post by on Dec 10, 2009 2:23:02 GMT -5

I like the New Delhi Plan, it looks good. Also it has a river located next to it which would allow stealth aquatic suits to get close to the base without being detected possibly. I can't however recommend people are pulled away from the event in North America. This event determines how we move into the following war, whether we be grieving over the loss of a leader or if we stand triumphant and come out with heads held high. Hell, we could actually frack them up pretty bad if we had all our forces there.

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 2:28:35 GMT -5

Post by Kale on Dec 10, 2009 2:28:35 GMT -5

Hmm. Think we can divert more RP into some aquatic units, then? Maybe let the Africa Korps (Ota, Marko, Ernest) guys head to North America and leave it to Duncan, Xavier, Ritter and Aldo to hit New Delhi? I'd really appreciate your presence, specifically, so that we could boost up additional NPCs.

The Gaws, I think, would be better used at New Delhi. Excelsior especially, since they've got Newtypes to make up for our jamming.

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ZGMF Wk. 7 - Blitzkrieg Overlord Operation Belfast Dec 10, 2009 2:32:16 GMT -5

Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 2:32:16 GMT -5

Naomi I think really wants us to go to North America, so that's probably where we will end up if Aquatic suits are to be of more use there. As for the Gaws, I'm not sure how much difference they would really make in North America, but Excelsior would be better left away from North America. If you're dead set on attacking Delhi during this period, I'd say leave the Gaws and make use of the fact that aquatic suits can be used.

For maximum effect, have the Excelsior blocking their shit while aquatic stealthy suits sneak up the river, then the aquatic suits pop up and focus on hitting the Mobile Suits and MPC's AA weaponry, then the 2 Gaws commence Carpet Bomb DEATHZ while the other forces and etc attack as well.

Seems like it'd work out.

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Post by gaplant on Dec 9, 2009 19:30:20 GMT -5

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Post by Draco on Dec 10, 2009 1:13:40 GMT -5

Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 1:22:35 GMT -5

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