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Post by on Dec 10, 2009 12:56:21 GMT -5
Honestly I'd recommend the Gaws join the event as well. We'll likely be dealing with heavy air attacks from the large naval fleet the EF could provide at the event would wreck the entire thing if we came with just MS Teams. If you're overly worried about Malta I say wreck it after moving the defenses onto a ship. =)
If we hold back at all during this event the Federation will stomp us.
Since I got bored and felt like expanding on the idea, Malta's assessed value is 230 RP. This doesn't count the mobile suits or tanks that were places there, but if you removed them, the RP cost of building a new fortification would be more worth it and it really shouldn't be seen as an important defensive target.
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Post by Draco on Dec 10, 2009 13:30:45 GMT -5
EDIT: When's the event taking place? Next week on Thursday, and you have to send in an e-mail of participation like any other battle. Edit: And yes, having the Gaw fleet available would be nice. |
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Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 15:08:54 GMT -5
...While the White Base event is important, I'm not keen on the idea of just throwing all of our eggs in one Garma-shaped basket. Especially since it took a couple of weeks of planning and RP loss in order to take Malta, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one against the idea of just ditching the base completely all because of a White Base event, but I could be wrong.
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Post by deadguydrew on Dec 10, 2009 16:27:06 GMT -5
A couple notes: 1) If Gharma dies we will be at a VP disadvantage for Odessa. When last Odessa hit, Gharma and the Feddie commander who looks suspiciously like Abe Lincoln provided +5 VP to EVERY player. If we lose Gharma, we don't get that bonus. Bad. 2) You can get to California faster if you are near Central Asia by going through Lhasa. Go to Lhasa, then go to orbit, then drop on California base. 3) I'm of mixed opinions with leaving Malta undefended. If we lose Malta (or it is destroyed) does that mean we will not be able to take Europe when we smash Belfast? Also I really don't want the BD to build a fortification in Europe since wouldn't that also let the Feddies take a peek at our boards if they have the RP? That said though, I'm more than happy to volunteer the Excelsior, and then we can always buy more stuff at California base proper. 4) We need Marines. We can try storming the White Base with Panzergrenadiers  |
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Post by on Dec 10, 2009 16:27:26 GMT -5
PS: If we win the event we all get +10 VP or something of the sort for a few weeks as a buff.
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Post by Zero on Dec 10, 2009 16:51:01 GMT -5
Eh. I don't care what the Gaw's do ultimately, I'm just saying I see no reason to just completely destroy it. If they build something in Europe they wont get anything, you have to complete a build order in enemy territory, Europe is still contested.
But hey, do whatever ya want in regards to the whole Malta thing. Just don't expect people to be so willing to hand over every last bit of their RP to taking a base next time if we're just going to destroy them whenever an event rolls around anyways. I find it a total waste of all the RP we spent to capture Malta if we just destroy end up destroying it after we captured it..
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Post by gaplant on Dec 10, 2009 17:13:42 GMT -5
Right now I'm tentatively paradropping Monday to engage the Blue Destiny, GM S, and New Amsterdam. Regardless of the outcome, I will likely be retreating to Malta with at least some forces (not necessarily myself, but maybe) to defend it.
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Post by Chris on Dec 10, 2009 17:30:06 GMT -5
As far as actual planning goes, I know that I want a Jukon there, and to operate as the Schutzstaffel on Gihren's behalf. I would like Dan and his units to run with me, whether its on sub or in coordination with me, and would like Cloud to orbital drop on White base in conjunction with our attack.
Unless you feel I would be better suited elsewhere?
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Post by on Dec 10, 2009 17:33:05 GMT -5
Gaplant, Ignore Malta, it is near worthless. It's damaged and not to mention it's on an island which is open to naval warfare, not our strong force at the moment.
This event is a TAF operation, I would hope you would have your units give it their all without question.
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Post by on Dec 10, 2009 17:33:41 GMT -5
As far as actual planning goes, I know that I want a Jukon there, and to operate as the Schutzstaffel on Gihren's behalf. I would like Dan and his units to run with me, whether its on sub or in coordination with me, and would like Cloud to orbital drop on White base in conjunction with our attack. Unless you feel I would be better suited elsewhere? Cloud will be Upgrading. |
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Post by Chris on Dec 10, 2009 17:35:08 GMT -5
Damnit man! Ok... but looking at base, I would like to see if we can't get Ritter to lead the charge, commanding the base's Panzergrenadier units/Marines, and I want to be involved with the Marine forces at california base in charge against White Base.
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Post by gaplant on Dec 10, 2009 17:40:32 GMT -5
Malta was my big push that Draco and I spent weeks arguing for. I'm not going to just "ignore Malta."
Although it's likely that the base will be fairly safe in the interim, if anybody should take responsibility it should be me. I'm not the only TAF officer, and from the way things are looking now there will be a significant TAF presence at the event. I"m not necessarily NOT going to be at California when things go down, but if I feel Malta requires my presence then I'm not going to think twice about it.
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Post by on Dec 10, 2009 18:56:10 GMT -5
Malta was my big push that Draco and I spent weeks arguing for. I'm not going to just "ignore Malta." Although it's likely that the base will be fairly safe in the interim, if anybody should take responsibility it should be me. I'm not the only TAF officer, and from the way things are looking now there will be a significant TAF presence at the event. I"m not necessarily NOT going to be at California when things go down, but if I feel Malta requires my presence then I'm not going to think twice about it. You won, you got rid of Malta, it's no longer a federation base opposing us in Europe. You were promoted and everything. Now the ground forces have no resource mines built in North America or Central Asia (Which I consider strong Zeon land) and no war factories working for it. Supply for that base will be coming out of the PC's pocket since it is a PC base, something that was never discussed in the original attack plans. If you're going to try to play a worry about Malta's defense card I'd recommend scrapping your Belfast attack budget and building it up so it's at least worth the 300 RP those things cost. You were fully ready to send all forces you have to attacking a base that's headed by Ryer. One of the stronger bases on Earth. Now that a battle plan emerges that is headed by Garma instead of yourself it seems like you've lost all chest hair, wanting to only put a portion of forces towards the attack. I know you don't care about the war, you've made this quite clear to me in chat on multiple cases. Side RP, Tactics, and NPC forces mean little to you, rather picking out a target and committing to it until the end even if you picked a bad target. However I refuse to sit back while the Federation pushes White Base along and gets handed promotions from this major event and the Zeon members loyal enough to show up are killed in action due to an officer's reluctance to provide support and answer Garma Zabi's call. Now the TAF itself is launching an offensive in North America. If this attack fails and the division did not give it full support, the Schutzstaffel Infantry Unit will terminate its assistance of any TAF planned assaults until it feels competent the leadership behind them again. It is unfortunate to say such things but your blinders are starting to annoy me. |
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Post by deadguydrew on Dec 10, 2009 18:59:37 GMT -5
I agree with Gap on not abandoning Malta. Even though this event is important, I think abandoning Malta is a poor decision, especially since the RPG does continue, win or lose, past this event. I would think a strong decision to make would be leave Gaplant, and one of the Gaws on Malta. This should be strong enough to hold it in the event of an attack, and redeploy the other two Gaws (specifically the Recon), to North America.
Edit: Also Dan, I don't think you need to be quite so gruff. No reason not to be civil.
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Post by Chris on Dec 10, 2009 19:16:53 GMT -5
I back Dan on this, Malta has been dealt with, White base event can be major turning point if it does not get our full attention and consideration. I will post more in depth once home, but Malta is not that important.
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