Post by gaplant on Jan 17, 2010 2:18:06 GMT -5
After some conversation the officers have decided upon a set of tentative (in details) but likely (in structure) plans of what, in fact, we are doing Monday.
As originally posted by Kale:
- Given the amount of damage Des Mielle has done to our mining operations, using Apsalus II against the RF-3 has my sound off.
It's also nice to see Yuji making posts on the regular Zeon forums. I don't know if you talked to him, or what, but it's a good start.
Hopefully, now, the rogues don't respond to his post by moving out of RF-3. If the African Union leaves RF-3, I suggest diverting Apsalus II to any of the other targets I've previously listed.
- I agree with the Dodai II idea, to fill support slots. It might also be worth purchasing L2 or L3 pilots for those Dodai II, just so they're not a bottleneck against PC experience.
- Hirsch and Gano won't be an issue until Day 2. Archer will certainly be hitting us Day 1, based on Zero's information. Chances are the Federation will paradrop Archer in with either fighters or snipers. Snipers could weaken our Gaws on Day 1, and leave us vulnerable to a more deadly encounter on Day 2.
- I also disagree with splitting the 9th Combined into an attack force and patrol fleet. Too risky, for too little chance at reward. If we're splitting up our forces, it needs to be for a larger benefit...
- Speaking of larger benefit. I am returning to the opinion that hitting both fleets, simultaneously, on Monday is the best of our options. Two fleets means at least one will not be engaged by Archer, and both could field a superior number of aircraft, without keeping us in South America another day.
This is going to require a lot of number crunching, but please bear with me.
Step 1) Rhett Paruta and Persephone Dawn and Noelle Everett (w/ MS Teams) leave the 9th Combined Operations Fleet.
- Persephone Dawn purchases 1 x L3 Dodai II and 1 x L2 Dodai II for MS team. (203 - 150 - 50 = 19 RP remaining.)
- Noelle Everett purchases 3 x L3 Dopp for MS Team. (450 - 300 - 54 = 96 RP remaining.)
- Rhett Paruta retains his team.
Effect: This gives us 2 more airborne MS, frees up 3 MS spots in fleet, gets Rhett out of support slots, and gives us 3 additional L3 Dopps.
Step 2) 9th Combined Operations Fleet splits into Fleet 1 and Fleet 2.
- Fleet 1 consists of Dragon + Schmerz + Swiss Miss.
- FLeet 2 consists of Stilva + Liger + Sammy.
Effect: Each fleet gets 6 vehicle support slots, and 3 MS support slots.
Step 3) Empty slots on fleets...
- Fleet 1 has Dragon (4 MS, 2 aircraft open), Schmerz (3 MS, 3 aircraft open), and Support (3 MS, 5 aircraft)
- Fleet 2 has Stilva (4 MS, 0 aircraft open), Liger (0 MS, 0 aircraft open), and Support (3 MS, 6 aircraft)
Step 4) Purchases for Fleet 1...
- Duncan Keystone purchases 1 x L3 Xamel (525 - 500 = 25 RP) and 1 x Dodai II (25 - 25 = 0 RP) for MS team on Schmerz.
- Ferusha Glavadeen purchases 2 x L3 Dodai II (875 - 250 = 625 RP) for MS team on Schmerz.
- Ando Shoji purchases 5 x Dopp (296 - 90 RP = 196 RP) for Fleet 1 Support.
- Ando Shoji purchases 2 x Dopp (196 - 36 = 160 RP) for Dragon.
- Schmerz has 1 MS slot open, Dragon has 4 MS slots open, Support has 3 MS slots open.
Step 5) Purchases for Fleet 2...
- Ando Shoji purchases 6 x Dopp (160 - 90 = 50 RP) for Fleet 2 Support.
- Stilva has 4 MS slots open, and Support has 3 MS slots open.
Step 6) Attack
- Fleet 1 attacks Matilda.
- Fleet 2 attacks Woody w/ Rhett and Noelle and Persephone.
This would be the makeup of both attack forces...
... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand... I think that's about that. Either force is more than capable of taking their respective targets. Even if one of them gets paradropped on Monday, numbers should still be on our side. Our aircraft are more numerous, and we've got a ton of airborne MS now to take care of interferences. Our ground forces are also beefed, and between Infantry and Tanks and MS, we should be able to provide fire support, as well as recon support to take down any MS they drop in, and take down snipers.
If we're concerned about their ground forces, it'd be nice if we could purchase a handful of L2 or L3 Doms for the respective fleets.
In terms of strategy, I think both fleets would follow the same basic premise: use tanks and infantry and Doms to scout for Federation ground MS, put larger MS like Hildolfr and Xamels and Rhinocerous on fire support, and send out aircraft and airborne MS and Gaws to engage the supply fleets. In the case of Fleet 1, the only difference will be that Ritter is going to board Matilda's Medea to capture. Simple, and should be able to respond to any forces Archer drops in.
After Monday, we could hightail it back to North America. Even if they send a large force against either fleet on Tuesday, we'll be on the run. It's easier to retreat against a large force, than it is to attempt to conduct a large strike against the second supply fleet while getting attacked by said large force.
The only drawback to this plan, in my opinion, is that it's more complicated. It'd require a communications effort on par with the Combined Operations Combat Korps. If we do this, it needs to be decided upon tonight, and communicated to the regular Zeon by tomorrow morning. Word of mouth and double checking to make sure emails are sent in will be important.
That's my long, long 2 cents.
Please look over this plan and report any changes you'd like to be made in this thread, thanks!
As originally posted by Kale:
It's also nice to see Yuji making posts on the regular Zeon forums. I don't know if you talked to him, or what, but it's a good start.
Hopefully, now, the rogues don't respond to his post by moving out of RF-3. If the African Union leaves RF-3, I suggest diverting Apsalus II to any of the other targets I've previously listed.
- I agree with the Dodai II idea, to fill support slots. It might also be worth purchasing L2 or L3 pilots for those Dodai II, just so they're not a bottleneck against PC experience.
- Hirsch and Gano won't be an issue until Day 2. Archer will certainly be hitting us Day 1, based on Zero's information. Chances are the Federation will paradrop Archer in with either fighters or snipers. Snipers could weaken our Gaws on Day 1, and leave us vulnerable to a more deadly encounter on Day 2.
- I also disagree with splitting the 9th Combined into an attack force and patrol fleet. Too risky, for too little chance at reward. If we're splitting up our forces, it needs to be for a larger benefit...
- Speaking of larger benefit. I am returning to the opinion that hitting both fleets, simultaneously, on Monday is the best of our options. Two fleets means at least one will not be engaged by Archer, and both could field a superior number of aircraft, without keeping us in South America another day.
This is going to require a lot of number crunching, but please bear with me.
Step 1) Rhett Paruta and Persephone Dawn and Noelle Everett (w/ MS Teams) leave the 9th Combined Operations Fleet.
- Persephone Dawn purchases 1 x L3 Dodai II and 1 x L2 Dodai II for MS team. (203 - 150 - 50 = 19 RP remaining.)
- Noelle Everett purchases 3 x L3 Dopp for MS Team. (450 - 300 - 54 = 96 RP remaining.)
- Rhett Paruta retains his team.
Effect: This gives us 2 more airborne MS, frees up 3 MS spots in fleet, gets Rhett out of support slots, and gives us 3 additional L3 Dopps.
Step 2) 9th Combined Operations Fleet splits into Fleet 1 and Fleet 2.
- Fleet 1 consists of Dragon + Schmerz + Swiss Miss.
- FLeet 2 consists of Stilva + Liger + Sammy.
Effect: Each fleet gets 6 vehicle support slots, and 3 MS support slots.
Step 3) Empty slots on fleets...
- Fleet 1 has Dragon (4 MS, 2 aircraft open), Schmerz (3 MS, 3 aircraft open), and Support (3 MS, 5 aircraft)
- Fleet 2 has Stilva (4 MS, 0 aircraft open), Liger (0 MS, 0 aircraft open), and Support (3 MS, 6 aircraft)
Step 4) Purchases for Fleet 1...
- Duncan Keystone purchases 1 x L3 Xamel (525 - 500 = 25 RP) and 1 x Dodai II (25 - 25 = 0 RP) for MS team on Schmerz.
- Ferusha Glavadeen purchases 2 x L3 Dodai II (875 - 250 = 625 RP) for MS team on Schmerz.
- Ando Shoji purchases 5 x Dopp (296 - 90 RP = 196 RP) for Fleet 1 Support.
- Ando Shoji purchases 2 x Dopp (196 - 36 = 160 RP) for Dragon.
- Schmerz has 1 MS slot open, Dragon has 4 MS slots open, Support has 3 MS slots open.
Step 5) Purchases for Fleet 2...
- Ando Shoji purchases 6 x Dopp (160 - 90 = 50 RP) for Fleet 2 Support.
- Stilva has 4 MS slots open, and Support has 3 MS slots open.
Step 6) Attack
- Fleet 1 attacks Matilda.
- Fleet 2 attacks Woody w/ Rhett and Noelle and Persephone.
This would be the makeup of both attack forces...
Fleet 1
Dragon
Infantry (2/2): Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (6/6): 2 x Magella, 2 x L3 Magella, 2 x L4 Magella
Aircraft (8/8): L4 Luggun, 5 x Dopp, 2 x L5 Dopp
MS (2/6): L3 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II K
Schmerz
Infantry (4/4): 2 x Marines, L6 Panzers (Ritter), L4 Panzers (Ritter)
Vehicle (12/12): 4 x Magella, 4 x Gunship Heli, 1 x Dodai II (Alain), 1 x Dodai II (Duncan), 2 x L3 Dodai II (Ferusha)
MS (8/8): L4 Zaku II E, L2 Zaku Cannon, PC Gouf (Duncan), L3 Xamel (Duncan), PC Efreet C (Alain), PC Zaku II F (Ferusha), L4 Zaku II F (Ferusha)
MA (1/1): L4 Rhinocerous
Support
MS (0/3):
Vehicles (6/6): Luggun, 5 x Dopp
Totals
Aircraft (18): 10 x Dopp, 2 x L5 Dopp, 1 x Luggun, 1 x L4 Luggun, 4 x Gunship Heli
Airborne MS (4): PC Efreet C w/ Dodai II, PC Gouf w/ Dodai II, PC Zaku II F w/ L3 Dodai II, L4 Zaku II F w/ L3 Dodai II
Ground MS/MA (5/1): L2 Zaku II K, L3 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II E, L3 Xamel, L4 Rhinocerous
Infantry (6): L6 Panzers, L4 Panzers, 3 x Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (10): 6 x Magella, 2 x L3 Magella, 2 x L4 Magella
Dragon
Infantry (2/2): Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (6/6): 2 x Magella, 2 x L3 Magella, 2 x L4 Magella
Aircraft (8/8): L4 Luggun, 5 x Dopp, 2 x L5 Dopp
MS (2/6): L3 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II K
Schmerz
Infantry (4/4): 2 x Marines, L6 Panzers (Ritter), L4 Panzers (Ritter)
Vehicle (12/12): 4 x Magella, 4 x Gunship Heli, 1 x Dodai II (Alain), 1 x Dodai II (Duncan), 2 x L3 Dodai II (Ferusha)
MS (8/8): L4 Zaku II E, L2 Zaku Cannon, PC Gouf (Duncan), L3 Xamel (Duncan), PC Efreet C (Alain), PC Zaku II F (Ferusha), L4 Zaku II F (Ferusha)
MA (1/1): L4 Rhinocerous
Support
MS (0/3):
Vehicles (6/6): Luggun, 5 x Dopp
Totals
Aircraft (18): 10 x Dopp, 2 x L5 Dopp, 1 x Luggun, 1 x L4 Luggun, 4 x Gunship Heli
Airborne MS (4): PC Efreet C w/ Dodai II, PC Gouf w/ Dodai II, PC Zaku II F w/ L3 Dodai II, L4 Zaku II F w/ L3 Dodai II
Ground MS/MA (5/1): L2 Zaku II K, L3 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II K, L4 Zaku II E, L3 Xamel, L4 Rhinocerous
Infantry (6): L6 Panzers, L4 Panzers, 3 x Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (10): 6 x Magella, 2 x L3 Magella, 2 x L4 Magella
Fleet 2
Stilva
Infantry (2/2): Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (6/6): 2 x Magella, 4 x L2 Magella
Aircraft (8/8): L2 Luggun, 3 x Dopp, 4 x L4 Dopp
MS (2/6): PC Dowadge (Marko), L5 Dom (Marko)
Liger
Infantry (1/1): Marines
MS (4/4): Xamel, PC Hildolfr (Bryce)
Support
MS (0/3):
Vehicles (6/6): 6 x Dopp
MS Teams
Airborne MS (5): Zaku II K w/ L3 Dodai (Rhett), L5 Gouf w/ Dodai (Rhett), L4 Zaku II G w/ Dodai (Rhett), Zaku II Manip w/ L3 Dodai II (Persephone), L5 Gouf w/ L2 Dodai II (Persephone)
MS (1): PC Dom (Noelle)
Aircraft (3): 3 x L3 Dopp
Totals
Aircraft (17): L2 Luggun, 9 x Dopp, 3 x L3 Dopp, 4 x L4 Dopp
Airborne MS (5): Zaku II K 2/ L3 Dodai, L5 Gouf w/ Dodai, L4 Zaku II G w/ Dodai, Zaku II Manip w/ L3 Dodai II, L5 Gouf w/ L2 Dodai II
Ground MS (5): PC Dowadge, L5 Dom, PC Dom, Xamel, PC Hildolfr
Infantry (3): 2 x Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (6): 2 x Magella, 4 x L2 Magella
Stilva
Infantry (2/2): Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (6/6): 2 x Magella, 4 x L2 Magella
Aircraft (8/8): L2 Luggun, 3 x Dopp, 4 x L4 Dopp
MS (2/6): PC Dowadge (Marko), L5 Dom (Marko)
Liger
Infantry (1/1): Marines
MS (4/4): Xamel, PC Hildolfr (Bryce)
Support
MS (0/3):
Vehicles (6/6): 6 x Dopp
MS Teams
Airborne MS (5): Zaku II K w/ L3 Dodai (Rhett), L5 Gouf w/ Dodai (Rhett), L4 Zaku II G w/ Dodai (Rhett), Zaku II Manip w/ L3 Dodai II (Persephone), L5 Gouf w/ L2 Dodai II (Persephone)
MS (1): PC Dom (Noelle)
Aircraft (3): 3 x L3 Dopp
Totals
Aircraft (17): L2 Luggun, 9 x Dopp, 3 x L3 Dopp, 4 x L4 Dopp
Airborne MS (5): Zaku II K 2/ L3 Dodai, L5 Gouf w/ Dodai, L4 Zaku II G w/ Dodai, Zaku II Manip w/ L3 Dodai II, L5 Gouf w/ L2 Dodai II
Ground MS (5): PC Dowadge, L5 Dom, PC Dom, Xamel, PC Hildolfr
Infantry (3): 2 x Marines, L3 Marines
Tanks (6): 2 x Magella, 4 x L2 Magella
... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand... I think that's about that. Either force is more than capable of taking their respective targets. Even if one of them gets paradropped on Monday, numbers should still be on our side. Our aircraft are more numerous, and we've got a ton of airborne MS now to take care of interferences. Our ground forces are also beefed, and between Infantry and Tanks and MS, we should be able to provide fire support, as well as recon support to take down any MS they drop in, and take down snipers.
If we're concerned about their ground forces, it'd be nice if we could purchase a handful of L2 or L3 Doms for the respective fleets.
In terms of strategy, I think both fleets would follow the same basic premise: use tanks and infantry and Doms to scout for Federation ground MS, put larger MS like Hildolfr and Xamels and Rhinocerous on fire support, and send out aircraft and airborne MS and Gaws to engage the supply fleets. In the case of Fleet 1, the only difference will be that Ritter is going to board Matilda's Medea to capture. Simple, and should be able to respond to any forces Archer drops in.
After Monday, we could hightail it back to North America. Even if they send a large force against either fleet on Tuesday, we'll be on the run. It's easier to retreat against a large force, than it is to attempt to conduct a large strike against the second supply fleet while getting attacked by said large force.
The only drawback to this plan, in my opinion, is that it's more complicated. It'd require a communications effort on par with the Combined Operations Combat Korps. If we do this, it needs to be decided upon tonight, and communicated to the regular Zeon by tomorrow morning. Word of mouth and double checking to make sure emails are sent in will be important.
That's my long, long 2 cents.
Please look over this plan and report any changes you'd like to be made in this thread, thanks!




