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Post by Spade on Feb 10, 2010 22:01:43 GMT -5
Why wouldn't we have the power to take out the bases alone? In my opinion, New Amsterdam was a little overkill. The EFGF PCs were the things that really screwed us over. These bases won't have PCs like New Amsterdam did.
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Post by ender on Feb 10, 2010 22:06:11 GMT -5
War Factories. If we siege, they're going to keep putting out the defenses. Yes, we have the VP superiority, but these bases have the numbers. Yes, we have artillery and the Aspalus, but they have Gundam Ground Mass Production types at each of these fortresses.
If the officers think we can do it split, I'll follow orders, but I just don't want to see us lose a lot of our units.
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Post by Chris on Feb 10, 2010 22:06:14 GMT -5
I am not going to entertain Torrington til New Delhi and Belfast fall. I'm not concerned that Nukes will be used on us by Jojo or any of the EF Officers. so, until Odessa has passed, it does not concern me. I think you're worrying too much about nuclear weapons and the possibilities there.
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Post by Spade on Feb 10, 2010 22:18:35 GMT -5
Alright, so far everyone doesn't feel we can do a split attack. Honestly, it's up the officers to make the final decision, but I'll stand behind the idea of splitting and attacking simultaneously since I know we not only have the brawn, but the brains to make it all work.
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Post by Zero on Feb 10, 2010 22:20:31 GMT -5
Another reason we sort of failed in the SA attack was my bad. I actually screwed up my email and ended up costing Zeon the presence of basically 3 Level 5 units (My Dowdage + 2 Doms).
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Post by ender on Feb 10, 2010 22:32:32 GMT -5
I'm not really worried about them using Nukes. I'm wanting us to control them so we can use them <_<
But I concede my point, and put up New Delhi above Torrington on my priority list. I was just putting my 2 cents with that. Re-looking at the ND Threats, we can hit that much easier than Belfast. I just want to make sure we have the perfect strategy. I know we're going to need the Hidolfr and I to just bombard the place with our ships.
Butto really make sure we can take ND, we will need at least one more Gaw with the Zanzibar to do bombing runs.
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Post by on Feb 11, 2010 0:21:37 GMT -5
I believe some of you may remember...I believe it was Archangelisk last run. That is the kind of event we should be having with so much RP invested into ships and NPCs. A Steamroll event that is short just because the opposing faction stood no chance, and the odds were so in favor losses were almost non-existent. This shouldn't be looked at as do both side have a fair chance, theres about a 70% chance one of the bases will be under weather conditions each week, one strong force would be able to strike the unaffected base in this situation.
If we take this as a both side have a fair chance, the side that fails will strengthen the base to double it's original strength. These bases were supplied during the beginning of the war. They both can hold 35 Mobile suits. We don't face that. They have 13 or 15 Mobile suits with the other 20 slots taken up by tanks and aircraft. Why would we want to risk a failed attack and let the factory replace ex-type 61 slots with new ms units.
Also as a side note for Federation PCs, they can for the most part paradrop any installation attack in retaliation from the Pacific ocean where they like to hang out. Day after the attack they can move to one space (what it would take us to leave the ruins) and be ready to paradrop any zone on earth except South Africa. The fact Jojo remains in that ocean makes me think he's finally figured out these things.
The only way to be sure the causalities from both attacks (Ours and the expected counter) are to stick together.
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Post by deadguydrew on Feb 11, 2010 1:12:57 GMT -5
Also I think that we should try not to use the Apsalus everytime for orbital drops, as they can adapt a plan to counter that (snipers, StA Missiles, etc). The Apsalus' can, though not as effective, can be used on a horizontal plane.
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Post by pinksoyuz on Feb 11, 2010 1:14:20 GMT -5
Gentlemen.
I present here Exhibit A. It is a culmination of dashed dreams, failed hopes, and a lesson that females cannot drive in any manner, much less in the snow. Obviously one of the previously listed is said in jest, but I wont say which.
Exhibit A entails a tragedy where a combination of events prevented what would possibly have been the easiest and most simple base captures in all of OYW. The planets had aligned, and we were going to fell Torrington in one mighty swoop and capture the Federation's earthen nuclear stockpile simultaneously.
Then a female driver caused two of the participants in the attack to find themselves in an automobile accident and therefore not in a position to send in an e-mail to participate in the Torrington attack.
What happened? Well, we tried three times, actually, and we ended up having Aleksei glass the base from orbit on the third go. But the most important thing I want to stress is that after the first attempt, the Federation called an emergency airlift of its nuclear stockpile and relocated them into Jaburo.
So if you want to maximize the gain from attacking Torrington...
CAPTURE IT ON THE FIRST ATTEMPT
The more you know
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Post by deadguydrew on Feb 11, 2010 1:15:43 GMT -5
That too. I remember talking on the Feddies forums about how shitty that was that you kept getting dicked over.
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Post by Spade on Feb 11, 2010 12:32:28 GMT -5
I should just go solo and blow patrols up somewhere completely un-strategic... -_-
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Post by on Feb 11, 2010 16:05:31 GMT -5
I should just go solo and blow patrols up somewhere completely un-strategic... -_- I thought of that but you're almost in the same boat as me. The only patrols we could his are South America unless you like water. |
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Post by Draco on Feb 11, 2010 16:14:35 GMT -5
@w@ Can I have one of the 08th's Gundams or are those for SS only?
I think that if we want to attack serious fortresses (let's face it, New Amsterdam was barely as defended as most Fortifications) we need to join forces.
I think Belfast would be the easier target at present due to our scouting report on it, though Chris makes a good point about blocking White Base from Odessa.
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Post by Kale on Feb 11, 2010 17:25:35 GMT -5
Unless the game version of Odessa significantly differs from the normal UC continuity, Europe will be far more important to the battle than East Asia. White Base's contributions were relatively minimal in the show (battling the Black Tri-Stars and cutting down M'quve's desperation nuke, which hopefully wouldn't be fired if we won overwhelmingly...). In the Gundam Movie II, White Base doesn't even make it to Odessa.
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Post by Daren on Feb 11, 2010 19:06:11 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter which we hit. The fact is we have to team up for it. Sure maybe we could hit both and potentially win. But it would be horrible from a cost perspective. At this point, taking on bases like that would require more than either fleet alone can offer.
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