Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 24, 2010 12:11:55 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 24, 2010 12:11:55 GMT -5

Welcome back peoples!

Okay, we’re back in the war and ready to kick some butt. The EFSF had split into two fleets, Bollocks and the Detachment Fleet Alpha. The Bollocks fleet has their most damaged ships and I’m wagering returning to Green Noah for repairs. Meanwhile, the DFA is in Side 2, doubtless going after the Asteroid Mines there.

That gives us an opportunity. I did the math to figure out how long until they can earliest arrive back at +2DE together. It comes out to six updates:

Bollocks: Move to Green Noah (1) -> Repair one day (2) -> Repair one day (3) -> Move to Side 7 (4) -> Move to +1DE (5) -> Move to +2DE (6)

DFA: Attack Asteroid Mine (1) -> Move to Side 2 (2) - > Attack Asteroid Mine (3) -> Move to Side 2 (4) 0> Move to +3DE (5) -> Move to +2DE (6)

So here is what the fleet is going to do:

ZEF: Move to Side 5 (1) -> Move to +2DE (2) -> Attack Tianem Fleet (3) -> Build Overlord 14 and start moving it towards Side 5 (4) -> Repair one day (5) -> Repair one day (6) -> Move to +2DE (7)

We can move to +2DE a day earlier if we need to.

I would also like to point out that there is a new EFSF player at +2DE: Nicholas Straw (Jesiah) in a GM Command Space Type. I’m not sure how long he’s going to idle in +2DE but if he’s still there when we come up, I won’t mind attacking him.

As for Purchases today, we’re going to be buying Asteroid Rocket Clusters for our Asteroid Mines in Side 2. I also have JUST enough for a Musai, so I’m going to have to postpone the 14x Marines I would buy for Texas Colony by one day.

Purchases:
Anya Wilds: 2x Asteroid Rocket Clusters for 96 VP each (total 192 RP) for Overlord 9
Radune: 2x Asteroid Rocket Clusters for 96 VP each (total 192 RP) for Overlord 8
Kuriboh: 2x Asteroid Rocket Clusters for 96 VP each (total 192 RP) for Overlord 7
Frenzy: 3x Asteroid Rocket Clusters for 96 VP each (total 288 RP) for Overlord 5

Whatever RP you have leftover, transfer it to me please. I need to buy crews and mobile suits as well as services for our attack on Tianem.

Also, everyone please welcome our lvl 3 SS operative, Black Leader! Arcaille won 3rd place in the FFA.

Jack Murphy also got a Thoroughbred-class ship at Luna II. Let’s see how long it stays there.

There is already Tianem Fleet pounding discussion on the other thread but feel free to start it again here.

Questions?

Last Edit: Jun 24, 2010 12:18:26 GMT -5 by Chan

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kuriboh ZMF Registered Newtype Is Miang. Maybe. Posts: 1,738	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 24, 2010 13:28:37 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kuriboh on Jun 24, 2010 13:28:37 GMT -5 Email sent

Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 24, 2010 15:01:45 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Jun 24, 2010 15:01:45 GMT -5 Thanks to my sudden windfall of winning 2nd in the planning contest, I can afford to get 3 clusters for both of my mines that don't have them.
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Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 25, 2010 6:33:46 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Jun 25, 2010 6:33:46 GMT -5 We may need to prepare for them to hit another set of mines...but isn't Aleksei's ship in Bollocks? Unless this was an error that never got noticed, that is.
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kuriboh ZMF Registered Newtype Is Miang. Maybe. Posts: 1,738	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 25, 2010 9:55:37 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kuriboh on Jun 25, 2010 9:55:37 GMT -5 Wowee. Those were some mighty useful asteroid rockets.

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 25, 2010 10:44:52 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 25, 2010 10:44:52 GMT -5

We weren't really expecting them to stop the EFSF. Just give them some more to worry about.

Anyway, there are a few things to think about: Both the EFSF players and the DFA are on Ruins. We have a chance to stripmine the last Overlord without interference. Downside is, it'll finish the DFA's job sooner by two days.

There's also the Comm Hacks we got this morning. Orange Base is rumored to be coming to space. This may be for another Orbital drop on Zeon bases or they might be coming up to help the EFSF. My feeling is that they are going to orbital drop what's left of ground.

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 25, 2010 15:19:11 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 25, 2010 15:19:11 GMT -5

Yeah, Kuri. We really weren't expecting the clusters to do much other than potentially do some damage. As is, the mines are there to keep the EFSF busy doing something that isn't beating on us. Mines are cheaper to replace than ships, so I'd rather we lose a few mines than a Musai or one of our pricier ships.

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 15:27:15 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 26, 2010 15:27:15 GMT -5

Okay so here's my idea. For this, we'll need at least 2 balloon services. The 3rd can be MS, I guess.

BEFORE THE BATTLE.

One Balloon service will be asteriod balloons. They will be used to buff up any shoal in the area. Inside/behind these balloons, Bravo and Charlie teams will be lying/hiding in wait. The Second balloon service will be used to replicate the ZEF ships, and will be positioned out of sensor range 'above' Tianem. In this dummy fleet, Able and Dog teams, as well as the MS support will be stationed.

EARLY BATTLE.

The battle will begin with Charlie Team (Cuyler) Sniping the STS-45 columbus, effectively nullifying Tianem's unit support. Bravo will pop out and commence the offensive on the Nashville immediately after.

MID BATTLE
At the same time, Able and Dog teams will engage, bringing with them the false ZEF. THey will have very little time to do their damage before Tianem realizes that it's a ruse. The Veiled Intent, as well as the stationed MS will probably have to shoot back a bit to keep up the ruse.

LATE BATTLE

The real ZEF will engage from 'below.' Ideally, all of Tianem's ships will be pointing above them at the false ZEF. With luck, this will buy our ships some time to take potshots while their gunnery crews adjust. If we aim well, we will be able to cripple, if not completely destroy the fleet with minimal risk to our own ships.

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 15:28:12 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 26, 2010 15:28:12 GMT -5

Able: Banks (dom), Myberg (dom), Mentalshon (Valvaro)+DOM+ZAKU2 <--Strike Team

Bravo: DeGrau (gel. canon), Baklitskaia (dom)+ZAKUKAI <--Cannon team

Charlie: Cuyler (sw), Wilds (Zaku2), Naizen (Act.zaku)+ZAKUKAI+DOWADGE <--sniper teamm

Dog: Ghettid (zakukai) + Veiled Intent (Zan2) <--Support team

Priority targets:

STS-45 --> Destroy immediately. (Charlie)

Nashville --> Destroy or cripple (Able+Bravo)

Secondary Targets:

STS-39 --> Destroy (Charlie)

Agincourt --> Destroy or cripple (Charlie+Bravo)

Tertiary Targets:

Agincourt --> Charlie and Dog are to assist if not already destroyed

ZEF FLEET ENGAGES.

Warspite
Yulin
Montery
Madras --> Charlie will disable if possible, Backup from Dog and Bravo.

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 21:00:49 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 26, 2010 21:00:49 GMT -5

I would like to avoid using Balloon Services when dealing with non-PC fleets. For two reasons, the first being that we overused balloon services before and the second reason being that named NPCs have a tendency to have "spider sense" all of a sudden.

One idea for this battle is to just use the ships as launching/recovery platforms for the majority of the battle. Only the MS/MA will be attacking at first. Much like the Battle of the Coral Sea and the Battle of Midway in WWII.

We have 55 MS/MA to their 5x GMs, 14x Balls, and 30x Saberfish. I think we can trump that.

As for services, I'm thinking about one artillery, one flight service, and one MS Support. We now have a SS operative and I want to use Black leader, the flight service, and the Panzergrenadiers to capture the Salamis Kai-class Warspite. I'll need to ask if this is really feasible or not.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
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Frenzy ZMF Officer Commander Could be Ramsus. Posts: 2,152	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 21:17:38 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Frenzy on Jun 26, 2010 21:17:38 GMT -5 Do we really need to capture a ship?
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Chan ZMF Officer Rear Admiral Posts: 1,348	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 22:16:41 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chan on Jun 26, 2010 22:16:41 GMT -5 Well if you want, we can use them to board Tianem's ship and kill him.
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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 22:35:50 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 26, 2010 22:35:50 GMT -5

[23:29] <Chan> Hey Ketara, question: Is it feasible for the SS Operative "Black Leader" to infiltrate and capture the Salamis Kai in Tianem Fleet with the help of the Panzergrenadiers on the Veiled Intent, a flight service, and a MS Support Service? They would be doing this while the Tianem fleet is under attack by the rest of the ZEF fleet.
[23:29] <Ketara> How would the Panzergrenadiers get on the ship?
[23:30] <Chan> dragged by the Zaku II Fs by wires?
[23:30] <Ketara> Sounds pretty dangerous.
[23:30] <Ketara> But it is feasible, yes.
[23:31] <Chan> mmmm, thanks.

So, I guess we can use one of the Komusais we have in the fleet. Have them hide in the debris field or something until Tianem is occupied by our attack.

"Please let my enemies be so stupid that they think they are smart."

"Nothing is scarier than the vengeance of a patient person."

"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on."
- Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974

kuriboh ZMF Registered Newtype Is Miang. Maybe. Posts: 1,738	Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 26, 2010 22:53:43 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kuriboh on Jun 26, 2010 22:53:43 GMT -5 I can dedicate a few bits to cover them after the initial assault.

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Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again Jun 27, 2010 2:12:35 GMT -5

Post by Isaiah on Jun 27, 2010 2:12:35 GMT -5

Since Chan requested it:

I propose setting up asteroid balloons, and have the fleet nudge them to get them moving. With these as my cover, I could float around and hopefully get close enough to set up a good shot with my cannon provided that the opposing fleet is already preoccupied with our MS forces. I could take maybe two wingmen or one PC (Baklitskaia) and two npc wingmen and burst out of the balloon covers, line-up a shot and if the shot hits/misses, I boost in and hit vital components (engines or whatever you guys would like me to hit) with two sturm fausts while the others provide me with cover. Since communications would be fucked up with particles interference, we're going to rely on flares to signal that we should begin our run. Whatever the outcome maybe, we'll either stay on the field and assist the other groups or immediately return to the ZEF for refuelling.

Most of this relies on chance, but I'm willing to take that element of surprise and take Tianem down with it.

Zeon Space - Week 23: On the Road again

Post by Chan on Jun 24, 2010 12:11:55 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 24, 2010 13:28:37 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 24, 2010 15:01:45 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 25, 2010 6:33:46 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 25, 2010 9:55:37 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 25, 2010 10:44:52 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 25, 2010 15:19:11 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 26, 2010 15:27:15 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 26, 2010 15:28:12 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 26, 2010 21:00:49 GMT -5

Post by Frenzy on Jun 26, 2010 21:17:38 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 26, 2010 22:16:41 GMT -5

Post by Chan on Jun 26, 2010 22:35:50 GMT -5

Post by kuriboh on Jun 26, 2010 22:53:43 GMT -5

Post by Isaiah on Jun 27, 2010 2:12:35 GMT -5

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